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Author:  Boongirl [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:02 am ]
Post subject:  Trolley-anchor-float set-up
I just bought my Revo. I installed the achor trolley (from Hobie) yesterday.
I've been reading that it's best to have a float attached to the anchor, to let it go quickly if needed. I'm trying to figure out the best way to attach it all.
What's the best way to attach the anchor to the float and then to the trolley? I've seen that some folks are using an O-ring instead of the clip that comes with the Hobie Trolley system.
Where did you get your anchor float?
And, where are ya'll installing the cleat to tie off the anchor line?
Author:  FishIt [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Trolley-anchor-float set-up
There is a good pic of a jam cleat mounted just behind the drink well on the post "Hobie seat or not to Hobie seat."
Author:  RPB [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Trolley-anchor-float set-up
I put trolleys on both sides, so I have cleats on both sides, the one not used for a trolley is used for a stringer.

Here's my photobucket for photos http://s342.photobucket.com/albums/o433/RPB1/
I used big stainless washers, stainless bolts and nuts.

I use an O ring, and "loop" through it, but any method of quick disconnect can work.

I attach my anchor float to my winder, then I know it will be above water when I come back. my anchor line is a buoyant/floating line too, so the winder sort of floats if much line is on it, but hard to see/find without a float.
Author:  Revo_1756 [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Trolley-anchor-float set-up
Boongirl,

Welcome to the forum and as mentioned I have the jam cleat on my revolution but I use that for sailing not anchoring.

I attach a large carabiner clip to the 'O' ring of the anchor trolley. I keep my anchor line wrapped on a cuban yoyo hand fishing ring. I drop the anchor then clip the anchor line into the carabiner clip on the 'O' ring bring the anchor line over the side and tie off on the cleat by the cup holder. Then slide your trolley fore or aft depending on how you want to anchor. Remember to never never anchor sideways to a current you can/will turtle.

Here is a picture of my trolley/carabiner/yoyo setup. It works like a charm.
Image

I hang my yoyo on a rod holder (leashed of course).
Image

As far as a float you could drill a hole in the rim of the yoyo and using parchute chord or nylon line you could tie on a 10" length of a swim noodle. That would be more than adequate to keep the yoyo afloat or the end of an anchor line. They use the same kind of float for the anchor pin StickIt that I use for shallows & flats. Look at the anchor pin float at $7.95 or make your own.
http://shop.stickitanchorpins.com/

I hope this helps resolve your anchoring question.

As for the Jam Cleat ... I run the main sheet of my sail through a pulley attached to a padeye behind my rear hatch then through padeyes along the gunnel to the jam cleat so when sailing a long distance I can cleat off the main sheet (saves the cramp in the hand from holding the main sheet) and can easily free the sheet when needing to adjust the sail and re-cleat. I guess it could be used to hold anchor line but never tried it. I would be concerned of slippage.

Revo
Author:  Boongirl [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Trolley-anchor-float set-up
Excellent! Thanks so much for the quick replies and great suggestions!.......I'm going to finish getting my Revo set up this week.
If I have more questions, I'll post them and I know ya'll will help me - this is a great forum! :D
Author:  RPB [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Trolley-anchor-float set-up
Boongirl, check your PMs Private Messages too.
Author:  Boongirl [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Trolley-anchor-float set-up
Okay, I see how it all works now. It looks like I should replace the standard Hobie trolley clip with an O-ring.
One more question: What is the advantage of a zig-zag cleat as opposed to a standard "dock" cleat?
Author:  RPB [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Trolley-anchor-float set-up
Boongirl wrote:
Okay, I see how it all works now. It looks like I should replace the standard Hobie trolley clip with an O-ring.
One more question: What is the advantage of a zig-zag cleat as opposed to a standard "dock" cleat?


Zig zag is quicker:

I use zig zag for anchor quick release
for fish stringer
for an improvised step ladder/rope ladder if I'm floating in the water after a turtle, and need a step up for re-entry
regular dock cleats .... aren't going to be as fast or as easy to release or to attach a rope to.

Suppose you have your stringer on a dock cleat and a 8-foot-shark/alligator decides he wants your stringer/fish .... how fast can you release it from a dock cleat?
Same as if you need to release a stuck anchor fast.

I had a dock cleat on my first kayak attached with wellnuts (they pulled out)
I tried also clam cleats, I didn't like them.
ZigZag is better.... with stainless washers, nuts and bolts.



No real need to replace the carobiner clip if that's what you have, just add a ring if you want to, or loop through the carobiner, either way. As long as you can "loop" through so it all releases.
Author:  Boongirl [ Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Trolley-anchor-float set-up
Thanks! the zig zag cleat makes a lot of sense - I ordered one last night.
RPB - I see that you have both the zig zags and the standard cleat - just curious, what are you using the standard dock cleat for?
Author:  RPB [ Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Trolley-anchor-float set-up
I don't think I put the old dock cleat on my Outback, just on my old one, but I put clam cleats on my Outback with the zig zag, however, I only used the clams once, attached anchor, and then adjusted trolley and it came uncleated by itself, wave action I guess, so they are just unused now.

I just use the zig zags, I forgot I had any others on there lol.

Of course the factory installed clams for rudder are used for the rudder up/down
Author:  popeye [ Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Trolley-anchor-float set-up
hi boongirl,

i have a revo with the standard hobie trolley. you don't need to replace the trolley clip. attach an o-ring (about 2 inch) to a double Overhand loop and then loop to clip. i use the jam cleat for quick release. it's the same cleat used for your rudder line. it works great. i use paracord for the anchor line. never tie to the clip for anchor. you won't be able to do a quick release if tied to clip.

how i anchor...
i throw out the anchor and let line out. once it grabs, i make a double loop and put it threw ring (move ring to bow or stern) and then attach to jam cleat. the float seats outside of ring. for a quick release, i just remove line from jam cleat.
note: always put fins flush against yak. use the bungee cord. wrap a shoestring around line wrapper and float to prevent letting out more line. i use float to store line.

getting the anchor...
remove from jam cleat. if you have a problem, you just can let go of it. use the trolley to get the ring near your. try to pull up on anchor. if stuck, pedal slowing behind anchor and pull it. watch as you pedal that line doesn't wrap around drive. worst case just let go of line and then grab float in water. pull slowly the anchor will come up. worst case. leave it.

remember anchoring is the most dangerous thing you can do while fishing. i like trolley ring and float to be at bow (front) of yak so i can watch for problems.
Author:  popeye [ Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Trolley-anchor-float set-up
i forget to mention. you can make the jam cleat portable if you have front scotty rod holders. i used the short scotty piece that goes in rod holder with a l shape alum and attached cleat to it.
Author:  Boongirl [ Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Trolley-anchor-float set-up
thanks, Popeye! You mentioned "always put fins flush against yak. use the bungee cord." Is this just because the anchor line may get tangled in the fins?
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