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| Author: | mb4859 [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | large rudder questions |
If I install the large rudder on my 2010 Outback 1. Will it turn better at low speeds? 2. Will it make the steering even more sensitive at high speeds (have to keep adjusting your steering to go straight)? 3. Does it slow the kayak because of more resistance while traveling straight? I'm wanting to upgrade to the ST or ST turbo fins and was going to upgrade the rudder at the same time if ya'll think it is worth it. |
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| Author: | dregsfan [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: large rudder questions |
The sailing rudder is a necessity on the larger boats like the Revo or Adventure. 1) Yes 2) Not noticeable to me 3) Unlikely. Consider the entire surface area of your kayak and standard rudder. Add a few more sq. inches and your not talking much. Go with the Turbos. You won't regret it. |
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| Author: | Ranger908 [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: large rudder questions |
Upgraded my rudder and fins (Turbo's) on my Adventure. Both made a big difference. On my Outback I just upgraded the fins to the St's and did not upgrade the rudder. Don't think it is necessary. |
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| Author: | Dr.SteelheadCatcher [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: large rudder questions |
I upgraded my 2010 Outback with the turbo fins and sailing rudder after I found while using my down rigger the kayak wanted to "pull" to the side the down rigger was deployed. The increased surface area of the sailing rudder counteracted the drag of the down rigger.....now I can track "straight"......it also makes turning/course changes quicker. The turbo fins allow much less effort to move the Outback......both improvements are worth the small $$ investment in my view. |
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| Author: | whosyerbob [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: large rudder questions |
Upgraded both the rudder and fins on our Outback; the difference was so great that I don't know why they don't come standard with it. |
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| Author: | RPL [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: large rudder questions |
Amen to all of the above!!!!! - Roger |
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| Author: | mb4859 [ Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: large rudder questions |
You've convinced me. Where is the best place to order these parts? |
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| Author: | dregsfan [ Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: large rudder questions |
mb4859 wrote: You've convinced me. Where is the best place to order these parts? No dealers in my area, so I buy all my Hobie goodies from Austin Canoe & Kayak. http://www.austinkayak.com/ Shipping is cheap or free in some cases. |
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| Author: | Liquid Surf_FWB [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: large rudder questions |
All great upgrades! Go for it... |
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| Author: | mb4859 [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: large rudder questions |
Went to Lewis and Clark yesterday and bought turbo fins and the sailing rudder. They are installed waiting on the alarm clock to buzz in the morning. I'm headed for Beaver Lake in the am to jerk the lips off some crappie. I just hope I can find some water. I'm not setup for ice fishing. A lot of the lake if frozen over. |
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| Author: | snopro [ Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: large rudder questions |
dregsfan wrote: The sailing rudder is a necessity on the larger boats like the Revo or Adventure. Hobie must not think so. It seems strange that an item of necessity isn't included with the purchase. It reminds me of how new HD televisions don't include an HDMI cable, an equally frustrating situation. |
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| Author: | mmiller [ Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: large rudder questions |
The smaller kayaks DO NOT require a larger rudder. We have included a size-appropriate rudder on all models. If you want to sail... that is a different issue. Not all people want to have the weight and draft issues of the larger version. It's personal preference once beyond the initial setup we designed. |
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| Author: | Rnykster [ Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: large rudder questions |
mmiller wrote: The smaller kayaks DO NOT require a larger rudder. We have included a size-appropriate rudder on all models. If you want to sail... that is a different issue. Not all people want to have the weight and draft issues of the larger version. It's personal preference once beyond the initial setup we designed. I bought a large rudder when buying the Adventure but never installed it. The original rudder turned the kayak surprising well.
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| Author: | Revo_1756 [ Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: large rudder questions |
The answers IMO are: Yes, Yes and No. Yes the kayak turns tighter at slow speed and at high speed. I have two revolutions and I have the sailing rudder on mine with Turbo Fins. Wife has the factory rudder and she turns just fine for simply cruising around. I just upgraded her to ST fins just for better speed so I don't have to crawl along with her with my Turbos. I do not want to put her into Turbos yet. For fishing .. the fast response and tight turning radius with the sailing rudder really helps when trolling and you hook a fish and need to swing around quickly or a fish runs under your boat. Under a clip the A**end will really swing about. The sailing rudder would add maneuverability to any model Hobie. Revo |
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