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Author:  MatO [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:52 am ]
Post subject:  pedaling compared to bicycling

I'm curious as to how pedaling an Outback Mirage compares with riding a bicycle. Would you say it's easier than a bicycle/less energy used? My right knee kinda crunches when I pedal a bike and I'm just wondering if it would crunch if I pedal the kayak. As I mentioned in my other post, I can't test-drive one because there are no dealers in Alaska, so I'm trying to learn as much as I can in forums. Maybe Hobie can work on getting a dealership up here...there's a ton of outdoors people.

Author:  AlohaDan [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:58 am ]
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The closest you might come to duplicating the Hobie movement MIGHT be a reclining bike.

See if you can scout around and find one, or one of those gym machines that allow you to pedal in a reclined position.

It won't be quite the same, but better than a situp bike comparison.

Author:  antbric [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:44 am ]
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a stair stepper machine may be more comparable to the mirage drive action. try your local health club.

Author:  ganiom [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:11 am ]
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Agree with Ant...much more similar to a stairmaster than any kind of bicycle. I do not find it to be stressfull on knees...but it is one hell of a thigh-burner workout ! :x

Author:  nanc [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:17 pm ]
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I don't think a stair stepper would be a good test. I've got knee issues (need a knee replacement) and cannot use a stair stepper due to the activity being entirely weight bearing. OTOH, I CAN ride my recumbent bicycle as long as the grade isn't too steep for too long, and I CAN pedal my Sport, as well. A nice feature (unlike bicycling) is that you can reduce the range of motion by using shorter strokes if that is friendlier to your knees. I would think the new turbo fins might be undesirable since they put more torque on your knees. Perhaps a better health club test would be using a seated leg press machine with light resistance.

~ Nanc

Author:  MatO [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:02 pm ]
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Sounds good. Thanks for the input. Just what I needed.

Author:  Apalach [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:14 pm ]
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Hey MatO,
Welcome to the Hobie Forum. As AlohaDan suggested, the action is closest to what you would get from a recumbent bike. But if you are not used to pedaling or biking, it will give you a good lower body workout in short order so that you will be feeling it the next day. Have fun!
Dick

Author:  AlohaDan [ Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:48 pm ]
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Forgot to mention gym machine workouts.

Here's one of the frau working her legs into Hobie shape. This is essentially a leg press machine, horizontal, with two separate levers. IMHO even better than a horizontal bike.

Load up the weight, then back it off until you can do 100 reps per set(that's each leg as you alternate). Do three sets.

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Opposite view of me, tying to pedal and paddle at the same time (I quit doing this and stick to pedalling workout.)

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Author:  scottcp [ Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:00 am ]
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I have Two recumbent bikes ride them App 2,000 miles a year , it nothing like the mirage drive.

Author:  ganiom [ Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:24 am ]
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I've never ridden a recumbent but if you make circular motion with your feet when pedaling...then as I said earlier, it is nothing like pedaling the MirageDrive.

I've climbed to the moon and back on a Stairmaster machine and I still say it is very close to the same motion as pedaling the Hobie...although I agree that you are not supporting your weight when pedaling like you are when climbing...

So in effect, pedaling the MirageDrive is the same motion as a Stairmaster but easier!

Author:  antbric [ Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:16 pm ]
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recumbent stairmaster?!?!?!?

Author:  ganiom [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:07 am ]
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Well...unless you are Spiderman, a harness would be required.

Author:  MatO [ Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:27 pm ]
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Would one of you post a short video of you pedaling a Hobie? I'd like to focus on the legs, and the action and angle of the knees. If I could see exactly how the legs work, I could determine whether or not I could use one, without affecting my knee. Or maybe you could supply a link that would allow me to look at a video of someone actively pedaling one. Thanks.

Author:  Apalach [ Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:19 pm ]
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Hey Mat,
Just check the Hobie Web site under Products and all will be revealed.

http://www.hobiecat.com/kayaking/miragedrive.html

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