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Author:  Samart [ Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:15 am ]
Post subject:  differently-abled newbie needing cart advice

Hey all!! Just bought my first kayak, a gorgeous red Outback!! Dying to get on the water but need to work out some issues... bad back and neck issues limit me to not lifting anything over 10 pounds. When I have to I can lift more, maybe 15-17 pounds, but not for long... I need a cart that will get my yak from the trailer to the water, over various types of landings (mostly paved) and then back on the trailer after the day. Not sure which would work best for me, tugs or dollys or scupper carts - any suggestions?? I think I can 'rassle the kayak on & off the trailer, one end at a time... but no way I can drag it without some wheels.

Author:  MikeinFresno [ Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: differently-abled newbie needing cart advice

I believe that the scupper cart will give you more than 10lbs of weight due to its position past the CG of the rig...I would look at the cradle style that you center on the yak to reduce the tongue weight so to speak.

Author:  stobbo [ Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: differently-abled newbie needing cart advice

Sounds like you need a cart that is easy to load the kayak onto and that can be positioned along the length of the kayak so that the amount of weight on the towing handle is small. This suggests one that will stand up on its own while you load it and a cart that the kayak rests on & straps onto, rather than one that plugs into the scupper holes (which can be tricky to load a heavy boat onto). I suspect that the plug in carts are going to prove difficult for you.

I suspect that you may also want a cart that will roll easily? Ease of rolling seems to depend primarily upon the surface - soft sand, for example, creates a lot more drag on the cart's wheels than does, say, hard concrete. If you are rolling over hard surfaces pretty much any cart will roll well enough, but if you have to traverse soft sand some definitely roll better than others - typically the wider (and, counter-intuitively, the softer) the wheels/tyres are, the better they will roll over soft sand.

There are a lot of options out there - my personal fave is the C-Tug. With some minor mods it is a good general purpose cart but I do not think that it is necessarily the best option for traversing soft sand as really wide AND soft tyres do not seem to be offered. Others rave about the Wheeleez for its 'cross country' capabilities and wide soft tyres - if you can confirm how this one works w.r.t. loading and positioning the Wheeleez might well be a good option, particularly if you have soft sand where you play... There was a recent thread which featured a recommendation for the Wheeleez - a forum search might well prove fruitful - but I am sure others will pitch in with their reviews & recommendations. Another thing to consider might be to get one sort of cart for its frame and a set of after market wide/soft wheels... for example I believe Hobie sells the same ones as are on the Wheeleez ones separately as an optional part.

Congratulations on your new boat and good luck getting the right cart for your needs - I am pretty sure you'll find something out there that fits the bill.

Author:  skymax [ Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: differently-abled newbie needing cart advice

I have just seen this movie.

Finding a cart that would balance my new AI2 as I have the same problem as you re strength.
The C-Tug is good for everything except a large, heavily laden boat on very soft sand.

About the same price I highly recommend these quality carts which use the same Wheelez wheels as Hobie beach carts do, and they roll over everything, they are not easy to puncture, and if so can be melt-repaired.

http://www.wheeleez.com/canoe-kayak-carts.php

But it gets better, the cart will fold into you're front hatch and not get fouled in yerr sail's Main Sheet like the plugin TRAX2 does when upside-plugged or it saves Two extra walkies back to the car to stash the cart.

Can be floated in/out under the boat when in 18" of water and then you just walk out.
Pushing rather than Pulling you're Cradled boat around when on flat ground, if possible, is much better for you're back and this can be done when the boat is balanced on easy-rolling wheels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOIvWCHZNWE

I think the Mini model would suit you're Outback unless you have some really big rocks to drag over.

Author:  Samart [ Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: differently-abled newbie needing cart advice

Thanks all! I decided to go with a regular cart, the weight on the scupper models and having to rassle the sucker to get it loaded correctly were deciding factors. Took my new cart to garage and spent some time figuring out the best way for me to load it... looks like it will work very well!! Can't wait to try it in the real world... but it is supposed to storm tomorrow!!

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