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Author: | RobPatt [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Will regular 18 sails be right on an 18SX ? |
I've got an SX now... (in addition to the 14 turbo)... Have you seen the new Iron Man movie... he tries on his suit... jets around the sky... lands... and says... "yeah, I can fly". Well that's kind of how it is on the 18SX heeled 30 degrees over when you're 8 feet up over the water on that wing... walking it back and forth to keep the other wing out of the water! Whoo hoo I'm an 18 convert.. but the 14 is still a little sports car. So... how about them sails... my mylars are shot... think my mast it taller and standard 18 sails won't work... help please. [/img] |
Author: | MBounds [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Will regular 18 sails be right on an 18SX ? |
RobPatt wrote: ... think my mast it taller and standard 18 sails won't work...
You got that right. I don't know if Hobie still makes sails for the SX. If they do, they're likely to be $$$. You could try Chip Buck at Whirlwind Sails. |
Author: | hobie18rich [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:46 pm ] |
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part # 68991100 sx18 main white $1420.00 part # 68992100 sx18 jib white $ 680.00 |
Author: | ncmbm [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:07 pm ] |
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Tiger ST main will fit it. Listed at $1675 new but I'm sure you can find one used. A little adjustment to the head and tuning the mast and your done. Well, maybe add some downhaul to control the sail and shorten your boom. The Tiger sail will last much longer than the SX sail if both are cared for properly. Chip at Whirlwind does make a nice squaretop main in many colors, the Tiger is smoke or white. |
Author: | hobie18rich [ Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:02 am ] |
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more like 2300 new definatly look used |
Author: | ncmbm [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:10 am ] |
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2300 is for the STX sail. He has a comptip and the STX is too large a head on the wiggle tip. The ST will flex it off more than I like, the STX will really flex. |
Author: | mikem. [ Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:21 pm ] |
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Say, can you use a squaretop main with a comptip? |
Author: | ncmbm [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:27 am ] |
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Yes, but the squaretop cannot be as large as the newer F18 sails. You will not get all of the performance from it because of the tip but it does make a difference in lighter air. Also not class legal for SE or SX 18. |
Author: | Skipshot [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:01 pm ] |
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mikem. wrote: Say, can you use a squaretop main with a comptip? Maybe. Just don't ask Jeremy at Surf City Catamarans to help: Surf City Catamarans wrote: Your aftermarket squaretop main needs battens and it doesn't fill at the top? Don't call me. I have no idea the length of your #3 batten nor how much to taper it and where. And I don't know how to tune it with the downhaul either, I don't have the experience with it. But if you buy a stock Hobie sail, I have the data to support you. And...if you bought it from me. You can bet your a** , I'll walk out onto the beach and help you tune it in. Most of the time I could walk you through how to tune it over the phone as you set up at the launch ramp. Your local rep has leverage, and often times experience to help you out.
Get me point, mates? AAAARRRRG (in your best pirate) |
Author: | hobie18rich [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:24 pm ] |
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wow harsh words. Jeremy has always been helpfull to me with the tiger, 18, and 14. I think that little section was taken out of context . If you put a chevy 350 in a 32 ford are you going to ask ford for the timing settings on the engine ? No you'll ask chevy. Thats what he was saying in that event. But thats not my argument. Can't we all just sail along? But if your going to go square top chip at whirlwind makes a good product and has made several for the 18 in dacron or pentex. |
Author: | Sail Revolution [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:41 pm ] |
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![]() I don't have the data. Correct. Call Chip: (877) 472-SAIL |
Author: | MUST5429 [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:17 pm ] |
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Skipshot, I don't know you, and therefore will save any harsh and judgemental words I might direct at you, however, Jeremy is a class act, and has proven over time to be a very informed, informative, and helpful individual, both online and in person. He certainly does not deserve the attitude you have directed at him. Respectfully, Stephen Cooley Hobie 18 Sailor |
Author: | Skipshot [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:54 pm ] |
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OK, now I'm getting heat for Jeremy's words, which were quoted from an earlier thread here, and my post is being taken the wrong way. I meant it as a warning about using aftermarket parts, not to make Jeremy look bad, and Jeremy's smiley indicates he understands what I meant. |
Author: | MUST5429 [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:23 pm ] |
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Skip, If your post was intended as good natured ribbing between friends, I owe you an apology. Sometimes things like that get misunderstood when communicating in the medium of an online forum. I am sorry for misunderstanding your post and taking you to task. Please accept my words for what they really were, that is standing up for Jeremy who has proven to be a friend to me and many others on here. Once again, Respectfully. Stephen |
Author: | Harry Murphey [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Alternative Solution ???? |
Hey Rob, Is there any "active" H18SE Hobie Points Racing near you currently??? Maybe you should consider locating a used Standard H18 mast and converting the boat over to a "SE" model. You would then be able to compete in the H18 Class at the Hobie Points Regattas. It most likely will be easier to locate used H18SE sails then H18SX sails as there is alot more of the "SE's" out there. I believe (Jeremy can confirm this) that the "SE" sails are significately cheaper then the "SX" sails from the factory and maybe with-in your price range. You may find a servicable used mainsail .... but I would suggest purchasing a new jib ... a "new" jib makes a BIG difference. Frankly wings are wings ... for the H18SE w/ either Magnum or SX wings or w/o wings, the portsmouth handicap number does not change, but the different size sticks do change the handicap number for "Open Class" racing. Ya, I remember a day years ago .... the second day of the 3-day Down the Bay Race on my H18Mag, we were behind because of some poor tactical decisions .... in the afternoon the wind picked up to 12-15kts w/ 3-4' seas, and the sky went black .... we double trapped off the wings ..... and we turned her loose .... leaving a trail of spray (3) panels high behind us, we started to run down the fleet ..... WOOF, WOOF, WOOF .... did she run that day ... and us, we were dry above the waves, my partner Glenn smoking cigarettes as we passed Nacra's .... H16's ..... and then some H18's .... we finished well that day .... I love my H18 .... with or without wings |
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