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| Author: | sgtpepperoni00 [ Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Want to get an 18 sell my 16 |
Am considering selling my hobie 16 for an 18. But i have a nice boat that i like very much so i am a little weary of selling it. The reason i want to sell it for an 18 is because i sail in the ocean mainly. The hulls of the 16 do not do well in a choppy sea. tell me: How much better does an 18 handle rough waters than a 16? Do the daggerboards help the boat point better than a 16. The predominant winds blow so i have a difficult upwind journey to get out of the harbor. I need something that can point into the wind better is the 18 alot heavier than 16? Will 270lbs combined crew weight be able to right the boat? 18s look like they weigh ALOT more than a 16. Is it as easy to get a hull outta the water as the 16 with all that extra weight. My 16 is a 71 with heavy hulls and it is pretty hard to get that thing on one hull unless i got good wind. Is the 18 going to be like that too If i get an 18 magnum, can you still trapeze or just hike out. it seems like if you have to trapeze of the wings thats going to add a lot of leverage out over the side of the boat that will bring the boat back to flat on the water. it seems like it would be hard to fly a hull if you had to trap of the wings. (average wind speed around where i live 10mph, we get lucky if we have a 20mph day) Anything else i should considere when switching to an 18 from a 16. What are the weak spots on the 18. What are the main things i need to check when looking at an 18 to buy? Anything else you guys can think of would help |
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| Author: | thundley [ Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:54 pm ] |
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The H18 definately will do better than a 16 in rough water, points better with the daggerboards, is not as suseptable to pitch poling and has no problem flying a hull, depending on crew weight and wind strength. I've had both boats (H16 & H18) and MUCH prefer the 18 with the exception of the bit longer rig up/down time. I have a Magnum and routinely can fly a hull while double trapped from the wings with approximately 350 lbs of combined crew weight as long as there is at least 12-14 knots of wind. Obviously, they are a heavier boat than the 16 but also carry more sail. Weight depends on year built. More detail orientated members of the forum can chime in and let you know when Hobie started producing the lighter hulls but I think it was the early 80's. Bottom line, if the boat is in decent shape, I wouldn't worry too much about the year it was built unless you plan on seriously racing it. It you will take the time to search and read the posts in this forum, there are numerous posts on what to look for when contemplating buying an 18. Tom 1988 H18M |
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| Author: | Little Wing [ Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:14 am ] |
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Keep the 16, and buy an 18 in addition. |
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| Author: | DVL [ Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:45 am ] |
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If you race keep the 16. More racing available. If you plan to cruise, a 18 with wings can't be beat. Seaworthy, dryer due to the wings, and more weight capacity. I like that I can single hand my 18 when needed yet put 3- 4 adults on it. Good speed once you get to understand the boat. |
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| Author: | sgtpepperoni00 [ Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:21 am ] |
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I am not a racer. I have not raced yet at all but would like to do some. My main use is just for pleasure though. I would love to keep the 16 but i cannot. Only have enough room for 1 boat. If i get an 18 is there any racing available to me. While i might not be a racer, it definitely would be fun to compete in one. |
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| Author: | MUST5429 [ Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:37 am ] |
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There is still a very active fleet of 18's racing in the southwest corner of the US. In addition, the Havamega Hobie North American Championship Regatta is in Lake Havasu Arizona in November and the hobie 18 Fleet is currently the 2nd largest pre registered fleet. By the way, a shout out to any Hobie 18 sailors that are thinking about going to the Nationals, get over there ( www.havamega.com ) and get pre registered. We are going to have a Hobie 18 Central right on the beach and there will be lots of fun going on. Stephen Hobie 18 |
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| Author: | Little Wing [ Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:41 am ] |
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I still say keep em both, find a friend and infect him or her with the sailing bug, and maybe keep the boat at their place, you just can't have enough Hobies !!!! |
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| Author: | sgtpepperoni00 [ Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:10 pm ] |
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Man we just dont have space out here in california like you guys do. Im not even allowed to keep my boat at my house. No backyard and the Neighborhood association doesnt allow me to keep my boat infront of my house on the street. Damn association And no lakes either. The one time in my life id rather live near a lake than 10 minutes from the real beach 
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| Author: | wannahobie [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Want to get an 18 sell my 16 |
sgtpepperoni00 wrote: ... Will 270lbs combined crew weight be able to right the boat?.. Looks like you are still in need of an answer to this. I am curious about this as well. My uncle has a Magnum 18 in need of TLC he offered to me for free. Wondering if it is worth pursuing. I sail alone much of the time, and at 150lbs, I would not be able to right an 18 if solo. |
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