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Author: | Al [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | SX wings--anti capsize device ? |
We had 430 pounds out in the wing this past weekend with a very nice steady 12 knot north wind. It was just enough to pop us out but I did notice as soon as the leeward wing starts touching the water the boat just does not want to go over. I've capsized before even with the wings but it was in a very strong wind, upwards of 25 knots. The SX 18 becomes a real joy to sail in this type of condition on winds 15 knots and less, the window for hull flying is pretty ample in my view, anyone else noticed this or care to comment ? Just a comment guys, the forum is getting pretty lonely in winter time up north and I guess I'm one of the lucky few to be able to sail in tropical weather this time of the year. |
Author: | george seary [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:00 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: SX wings--anti capsize device ? |
I do most of my Magnum sailing solo ( at ~ 225#), so my perceptions may differ from your 430# ballast. Whenever my wing touches the water, not only does the boat slow down, but it feels like its close to 'tripping over itself', and might pitchpole. Impressive rooster tail off the wetted wing, though. Isn't the maximum weight rating for the wings ~350# ? |
Author: | Al [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: SX wings--anti capsize device ? |
450 lbs. is the max. load. My cousin weighs in at 240 and I go at 190. Thanks for sharing your thoughts I don't see the 18 pitchpoling too much but I have my mast back as far as it will go. |
Author: | RobPatt [ Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: SX wings--anti capsize device ? MAYBE.... |
I've only tipped sideways once.... it was gusting to 33mph, and during head to wind on a tack I had my buddy ( @ 225lbs ) get down on the tramp to try and adjust the mast rotation..... as I brought the bows around, sheeted the jib, then the main a little.... BAM... we were over....once his weight was leaned over to the low side... and the wind.... we heeled more, hard from him to clamor to the high side... I'm hiked WAY WAY out off the wing to counte.... and over she went... Thing is... once we were over, that high side out of the water wing was over on the "weight" side of the boat... same side as the mast.... so it was like the wing added weight on that side and it was slow to come back over..... The water was only about 8 or 10 feed deep... so as we pressed the bows down to turn the boat 45 degrees to the wind... the mast tip was dragging through the mud ( we could tell cause it was caked in muck ).... so between the shallow water, and the wings... it was HARD to get it turned... then it was SLOW to right... and we had about 375lbs on the righting line. I REALLY REALLY need to build the soloright... or get a pole... like an 8 foot pole.... before next summer. Cheers I love the SX though... in that kind of wind... ( Juana's Regatta, Navarre Beach, FL ) we were both trapped off the wings... the boat stayed rather flat... and we were just chomping past folks... barging like a freight train in all that wind... MANY others had to travel out... downhaul.... etc etc and we were just HOLDING ON! What a rush. Cheers, Rob in Mississippi. |
Author: | ncmbm [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:04 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: SX wings--anti capsize device ? |
I really like riding on the wings but hate the way they drag. Its a trade off. At least they don't drag when you are at max speed angles, just kissing the water. Probably makes you a better sailor because you are more aware of when the boat is keeled too far for speed. |
Author: | RobPatt [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:21 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: SX wings--anti capsize device ? |
When you fly a small plane it has a "stall" indicator.... The wind normally flows and keeps the switch in the down position. But when your angle of attack increases enough, the wind flows under the switch and flips on a stall warning buzzer in the cockpit.... to tell you "your angle of attack is too high"..... That's what the wings are like.... an early warning system.... ![]() |
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