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Author: | Burley Burlando [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:50 pm ] |
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I have the old jib system. One swivel cam cleat, and one jib sheet car with block (sping to hold it up) per side. I would like to be able to travel the jib from out on the wire. What is the best way to make this posable? Should I buy one of the kits with the swivel cam cleats or should I buy two Lo-profile Jib blocks? (page # 24) Am I wasting my Money? Does it help? |
Author: | Tri_X_Troll [ Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:33 pm ] |
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The cheapest setup would probably be adding the tremtec low profile cars. |
Author: | Burley Burlando [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:41 am ] |
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Are they the plastic blocks with all the holes in them? I know you would use shock cord to pull them to the midle, but what would I need to keep them out? I know it is going to cost some $ but I want to do it right. |
Author: | srm [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 am ] |
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Quote: what would I need to keep them out? I know it is going to cost some $ but I want to do it right.
The setup that I remember seeing a lot (before the integrated traveler systems) was one basic Harken cheek block (Bullet block or Micro) riveted to each corner casting in line with the jib travelers. Then a basic Lance cleat mounted to the front crossbar on either side. The traveler line ties off at the jib block (traveler) goes through the cheek block, through the Lance cleat, and ties off on the opposite shroud. Pull the line and cleat to hold the jib traveler out, bungee between the two jib travelers pulls them inboard when the cleat is released. With your current system, if you tie the traveler line and bungee under the stopper pin on your jib block, it will hold the pin up to keep it from engaging the traveler track stops. I would guess that the whole system (cheek blocks, lance cleats, line and bungee) would cost somewhere around $50. Or, if you replace your jib block with one that has the cleat built in to it, you can use the swivel cleat already mounted to the front crossbar as your traveler line cleat (in place of the Lance cleats). But the overall system will probably be more expensive (I would guess new jib cleats are not cheap). If you're otherwise happy with your current set-up, I'd probably say just go with the lance cleats. sm |
Author: | DavidBell47 [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:16 pm ] |
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You mean, like this??? ![]() |
Author: | sunjammers [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:08 pm ] |
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I like the kit David showed a picture of the best when converting an older boat. |
Author: | The Dog [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:53 pm ] |
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Hey David, What's that white disc shaped doohickey to the side of the mast step? |
Author: | sunjammers [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:06 pm ] |
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compass mount? |
Author: | Burley Burlando [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:03 pm ] |
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I called Hobie cat N.W. today in seattle. He is getting in the swivel cleat system for me. ($145) Thanks for all your help. |
Author: | The Dog [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:26 am ] |
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I thought it seemed kind of big for a compass mount. |
Author: | DavidBell47 [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:44 am ] |
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You're right Dog. It is a compass mount and it's just the right size. ![]() I can see it from anywhere on the tramp and from most places on the wire. |
Author: | The Dog [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:28 pm ] |
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Brad was right... That's one BIG compass. |
Author: | DavidBell47 [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:02 pm ] |
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I got this one at West Marine. They make them larger (like the ones on 505s and some of the other smaller monohulls ) but they were a little too expensive for my taste. It works great. Some people can sail strictly from instinct. I've only been sailing for 6 years and I haven't quite developed the knack for that yet. Sometimes I can (when I'm really feeling it ), but most of the time my sailing is information based (compass, wind-vane, tel- tales, e.t.c.) I guess I trust the information more than I trust my sailing skills. As I understand, ther are advantages and dis-advantages to both. That's really weird because everytime I've capsized, I was relying on information. I have never capsized (or pitchpoled) while sailing under instincts. Things that make you go Hmmmmmmmm. ![]() |
Author: | srm [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:17 pm ] |
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Quote: That's really weird because everytime I've capsized, I was relying on information. I have never capsized (or pitchpoled) while sailing under instincts.
That's not weird at all. A compass or wind vane can't predict what the wind is going to do. It can't tell you if you're going to get hit by a gust, a lull, or a shift. It can only tell you what is currently happening. The only way to get foresight into what is going to happen, so you can prepare is to look away from the compass and look out at the wind and water. sm |
Author: | DavidBell47 [ Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:33 pm ] |
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Quote: The only way to get foresight into what is going to happen, so you can prepare is to look away from the compass and look out at the wind and water.
Sm, Thanks for the info but I'm always looking outside the boat. I sail in the Pacific (rough waters and high winds) but I seem to bring the boat into it's performance range a lot quicker if I use information. I have NEVER sailed on flat water. I quess I'm just a slow learner. ![]() |
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