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| Author: | ippi [ Tue May 26, 2009 9:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | retrofit for furling jib halyard on h16 |
howdy! in rigging my h16 for the first time this season i was reminded how awkward the length of the jib halyard is. since i've retrofitted my forestay with a hobie roller furler (one of the best retrofits for non-racing sailors) the jib halyard must be tied off at the toe, just above the bridle and furler assembly. for detail's sake here's my setup: i use a double adjuster plate (the same kind used to attach side stays to pontoons) as the connector between the forestay and the top of the roller furler assembly, secured with a pin&ringding between the two plates. this gives me a way to adjust the forestay and additional holes below where i use a standard caribiner (below the forestay/adjuster plate connection) to quickly attach the jibsail's toe. to ease tensioning, i have one block attached between the cable and line segments of the halyard, as well as another block attached to the same caribiner beside the jib toe. when hoisting the jib, i feed the halyard through the block on the caribiner, and then through the other block at the halyard cable/line junction, allowing me to pull downward easily on the halyard and get a nice tight jib. that leads me to the task of securing the rest of the jib halyard once all is nice and tight. i usually tie off a number of ways that are just begging for something stupid (and possibly dangerous) to happen eventually. searching on the web, i just discovered that the new h18's (which all have roller furlers) include a small cleat at the base of the jibsail itself for tying off the halyard! so that is one idea, but something seems odd about attaching a cleat to the jibsail. any other ideas or solutions out there? thanks! |
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| Author: | Sail Revolution [ Tue May 26, 2009 10:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: retrofit for furling jib halyard on h16 |
Check out the way that the old style 18 jib is cleated...a cleat on the sail near the tack, and it's been pretty successful for over 30 years. (See diagram in catalog) My question is what are you going to do with that 70' of Aussie jib halyard? You may want to go to a multipart halyard like the 18 so you don't have all of that line up on the furler and ditch the Aussie Halyard since you're not changing your halyard tension on the fly anyway. Look at the 18 setup it's pretty simple and will basically solve all of your problems. I'd have to see your system to fully understand it, but with most furling headsail scenarios you tension the rig before you hoist the jib, whereas the 16 was designed to be tensioned with the jib halyard. Just another thing to keep in mind when designing your system. J |
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| Author: | ippi [ Tue May 26, 2009 12:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: retrofit for furling jib halyard on h16 |
thanks for the fast reply. the only photos i can find of this are in a blurry pdf. do you have a link to a clearer photo? if not, i'll keep searching. thanks! ~ippi Surf City Catamarans wrote: Check out the way that the old style 18 jib is cleated...a cleat on the sail near the tack, and it's been pretty successful for over 30 years. (See diagram in catalog) My question is what are you going to do with that 70' of Aussie jib halyard? You may want to go to a multipart halyard like the 18 so you don't have all of that line up on the furler and ditch the Aussie Halyard since you're not changing your halyard tension on the fly anyway. Look at the 18 setup it's pretty simple and will basically solve all of your problems.
I'd have to see your system to fully understand it, but with most furling headsail scenarios you tension the rig before you hoist the jib, whereas the 16 was designed to be tensioned with the jib halyard. Just another thing to keep in mind when designing your system. J |
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| Author: | waldorf [ Tue May 26, 2009 10:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: retrofit for furling jib halyard on h16 |
the jib is your forestay,,,,, why do you need a halyard???? http://www.waldorfs.com/miniSail1Web.jpg |
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| Author: | ippi [ Sat May 30, 2009 5:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: retrofit for furling jib halyard on h16 |
waldorf, the reason i need the two forestays is because we keep the mast up all summer, so the jib must be removeable without bringing down the mast. when i first looked at your photo i was thinking to myself why your main isn't all the way up to the top of the mast, but theni read the photo title "minisail" and realized you have a smaller area option, neat! -ippi |
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| Author: | Little Wing [ Sun May 31, 2009 5:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: retrofit for furling jib halyard on h16 |
Why not get a jib snorkle and leave it on all summer , that is what I do with my 18. |
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| Author: | ippi [ Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: retrofit for furling jib halyard on h16 |
well that is an option, but i have prefered not to leave the jib wrapped up all week long when it's not in use. but this may be a silly concern for a very old jibsail. how much does leaving the jib rolled up effect the sail? |
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| Author: | Little Wing [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: retrofit for furling jib halyard on h16 |
Well I have done it for years and I have not had any problems. |
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| Author: | dreamer [ Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: retrofit for furling jib halyard on h16 |
How do you rig the and use the snorkle cover ? I bought one, read the directions, but don't quite get it...Thanks ! |
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| Author: | hobieboyforever [ Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: retrofit for furling jib halyard on h16 |
waldorf wrote: Whats the deal in the picture with the size of the Mast to the size of the main,Something to Long or Something to Short. ? |
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