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drummer63 wrote:

the additional chainplate also allows for increased mast rake on the older hobies

Sorry, but how? My understanding is that Mast rake is controlled by the Jib Halyard tension (and where you have the pins located on the chainplates). This extra chainplate on the forestay only comes into play when the Jib isn't up. Even then, I'm not sure you'd want to be sailing with that much rake if you're sailing bare headed.

If you look at Matt's pic (and assuming that he has as much rake as anyone'd desire) the jib is still being shackled on to the lower chainplate.

I have an older hobie (an 83) and am running with current length standing rigging with no problems. I can only assume that an earlier owner switched out the mast base, or that the boat has gone through some upgrades over the years. I don't have the second chainplate and am wondering what benefit (other than getting the forestay off of the jib) it brings.

Cheers, PT.

Author:	jsloan999 [ Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:12 pm ]
Post subject:	Forstay thingy setup
I see on some H16's that the forstay is pulled forward out of the way of the jib by a second chain plate hinged on the primary chain plate. I would like to retrofit my H16 this way to minimize the forstay wearing against the jib. Does anyone have a detail picture of this setup?

Author:	ET Hobie guy [ Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:28 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Forstay thingy setup
I believe the 2nd chainplate is only for those needing more length to initially hook up the forestay as do I. I do not have pics, but I just use a small bungie and hook it in any fashion to keep a little tension on the loose forestay after rigging. Since I haven't sailed all winter I almost can't remember, but I think I hook to the bottom of the chainplate, pull the forestay forward, go around the back of it and hook the other end of the bungie to the bottom chainplate. Nothing difficult, just any method to keep a little tension on the forestay will work.

Author:	drummer63 [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:15 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Forstay thingy setup
the additional chainplate also allows for increased mast rake on the older hobies

Author:	MBounds [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:26 am ]
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Author:	Bean [ Sun May 02, 2010 5:16 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Forstay thingy setup
Please clarify for me. Does the Jib wire support 100% of the forstay load? I generally leave the Forstay pinned tight?? thanks

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Author:	s30series [ Sun May 02, 2010 11:33 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Forstay thingy setup
the jib supports the mast completely...thats why people put the extra chain plate, to stop the forestay from chaffing the jib when the jib is up. Once the jib is lowered, the forestay takes the load of the mast.

Author:	touchngo [ Fri May 07, 2010 12:27 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Forstay thingy setup
drummer63 wrote: the additional chainplate also allows for increased mast rake on the older hobies Sorry, but how? My understanding is that Mast rake is controlled by the Jib Halyard tension (and where you have the pins located on the chainplates). This extra chainplate on the forestay only comes into play when the Jib isn't up. Even then, I'm not sure you'd want to be sailing with that much rake if you're sailing bare headed. If you look at Matt's pic (and assuming that he has as much rake as anyone'd desire) the jib is still being shackled on to the lower chainplate. I have an older hobie (an 83) and am running with current length standing rigging with no problems. I can only assume that an earlier owner switched out the mast base, or that the boat has gone through some upgrades over the years. I don't have the second chainplate and am wondering what benefit (other than getting the forestay off of the jib) it brings. Cheers, PT.

Author:	MBounds [ Fri May 07, 2010 5:25 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Forstay thingy setup
touchngo wrote: drummer63 wrote: the additional chainplate also allows for increased mast rake on the older hobies Sorry, but how? My understanding is that Mast rake is controlled by the Jib Halyard tension (and where you have the pins located on the chainplates). This extra chainplate on the forestay only comes into play when the Jib isn't up. Even then, I'm not sure you'd want to be sailing with that much rake if you're sailing bare headed. If you look at Matt's pic (and assuming that he has as much rake as anyone'd desire) the jib is still being shackled on to the lower chainplate. I have an older hobie (an 83) and am running with current length standing rigging with no problems. I can only assume that an earlier owner switched out the mast base, or that the boat has gone through some upgrades over the years. I don't have the second chainplate and am wondering what benefit (other than getting the forestay off of the jib) it brings. Cheers, PT. If you look at the photo, there's no way the forestay could connect to the lower chainplate with the mast rake I was carrying. Thus, it allows more mast rake, since the forestay would go tight before the jib halyard/luff wire.

Author:	Bean [ Fri May 07, 2010 1:27 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Forstay thingy setup
I have an 1982 H16. Is there an updated Base that allows more rake?

Author:	mmiller [ Fri May 07, 2010 1:38 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Forstay thingy setup
Yes... since 2004. Mast base and step cating were revised. Much better parts.

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