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| Author: | Nevek [ Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Soo...before it happens....how do you right a turtled hobie? |
I have yet to be able to right my hobie without assistance (wave runner/ sea vee) but I now think I have all my issues solved. The mast was leaking water and I think this was the demise of me. Now that that is fixed I plan on putting her over on purpose and seeing what happens. It is bound to happen I am sure....but what do you do when the boat goes completely over and turtles? |
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| Author: | sunvista [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soo...before it happens....how do you right a turtled hobie? |
I've never turtled my Hobie but I crewed on a Nacra 5.0 that did. To make matters worse the mast got stuck on the bottom. We moved all of our weight as close as we could to the transom on one hull and let the current rotate the boat around enough to free the mast. Keeping our weight at one corner the mast eventually popped up and rolled the boat up onto one hull where we righted it in the normal way. I have found the best way is to avoid turtling altogether by avoiding violent pitchpoles or turning over backwards while tacking in high seas. Obviously, move to the lower hull as soon as possible after a crash and keep the mast out of the water. |
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| Author: | Little Wing [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soo...before it happens....how do you right a turtled hobie? |
In big wind the boat can be pushed all the way over to the turtle position. |
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| Author: | Nevek [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soo...before it happens....how do you right a turtled hobie? |
Thanks, I realize that.....what happens after that. |
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| Author: | Skipshot [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soo...before it happens....how do you right a turtled hobie? |
Don't do what I did - failed to put cotter pins at both ends of the rudder pins. Read about it here - viewtopic.php?f=14&t=13093 1. Don't panic. 2. Loosen all sails. 3. I use the turtle opportunity to raise the mast so it points into the wind. So, stand on the leeward hull, grab your righting line and lean back like righting from a capsize. You may not need to route the righting line around the outside of the windward hull, and you probably won't need assistance from your crew. 4. If the mast is not full of water, it will slowly come to the surface using it's buoyancy. 5. This is where it can get tricky depending on the wind speed. With the mast now pointed into the wind, the wind pressure on the tramp will reduce the effort needed to right the boat, and the stronger the winds the less effort needed. In fact, in 30-ish winds on my 18 the tramp alone, without leaning from me at all, righted the boat. The reason it's tricky is because the boat will right much more quickly than from righting it into the wind that the momentum combined with the wind pressure may blow it back over again; which leads to #6. . . 6. When you feel the righting moment do what you can to grab the other hull near the front cross bar and hang on! In my younger and lighter days my crew and I both were once pulled out of the water up to our waists as the boat wanted to flip again. You should know what to do after that. |
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| Author: | mdgann [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soo...before it happens....how do you right a turtled hobie? |
Sorry Skipshot, but I have never been able to right my cat with the mast pointed into the wind. The wind presses down on the sails and prevents it coming up. If you swim the bows around into the wind however, the wind gets under the sails and away you go. I have only turtled my boat once, and the way I got it to come up was to go as far aft as I could and the stern would begin to sink and the bows point up to the sky. I would then hurry forward to the middle of the boat and when it evened out the mast was at the surface or close to it. It took a couple of times to get it all the way to the surface and then I just righted it as normal. Bows into the wind sheets released and lean back on the righting line. Be sure and jump under the hull to the windward hull to prevent it from going over the other way. Also hang on as it will be sailing when it comes up. Great fun. |
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| Author: | John Lunn [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soo...before it happens....how do you right a turtled hobie? |
As a Catamaran Sailing Instructor at our Club, I am not sure I want to reply here..... However.....About 3 years ago, my first sail of the season was on a H16 with my wife. Running across the river (over a mile wide at this point), her water bottle fell out of her life jacket. Like a gentleman, I leaned across to pick it up just as a puff of wind hit us. As the one hull came out of the water, the leeward hull submarined into the wave ahead of us, and over we went. To cut a long story short, we turtled, and put the head of the mast into the mud. It took a power boat to GENTLY get us out. Once back in the capsize position, we were fine. Sail safe. |
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| Author: | Al [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soo...before it happens....how do you right a turtled hobie? |
It has to be a fairly stropng wind and you almost have to let it happen now with the advent of the mesh trampolines. It was a more common ocurrence with solid vynil (which acted as a sail). These new mesh tramps let all the air through. |
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| Author: | Skipshot [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soo...before it happens....how do you right a turtled hobie? |
Here's a video on how to right from a turtle. Notice the mast is pointed into the wind, and the sailor quickly jumps to the opposite hull to keep it from blowing back over. I'd say I've done this 10 times as successfully and easily as done in the video. |
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| Author: | robbor [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soo...before it happens....how do you right a turtled hobie? |
Ya gotta love that main sail in that video!!!Where can I get one??
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| Author: | Al [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soo...before it happens....how do you right a turtled hobie? |
Notice too how the sailor moves his weight to the bows to turn them into the wind to the proper angle before the final righting maneuver. Once the cat is on its side, you'll be able to rotate it by moving your weight along the length of the hulls. |
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| Author: | mdgann [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soo...before it happens....how do you right a turtled hobie? |
I've watched the video twice now and it looks like to me than the bows are pointing into the wind when it comes up and then falls off to about 45 degrees to the wind with the sails luffing when it it back on it's feet. What do you guys think? |
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