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Author:  janek.w [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Heavy Oxidation?
I'm not really any expert on this so I'll just ask you guys. Does this look like heavy oxidation?
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OK. now if it is, I want to use Jeremy's ingenius method to remove that stuff and get em' lookin new! Will this stuff do the trick?????/

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http://www.murrays.com/mm5/merchant.mvc ... re_Code=MS
Oh yea and don't yell at my about my very not so ingenius method of storing the sails. :roll: When we bought the boat the guy forgot to give us the keys to the sail box and we didn't have enough time to get a pair a bolt cutters and cut the old ones off so.... we ended up tying the boom n' sails to the mast.
Thanks in advance!!
Janek
Author:  MBounds [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heavy Oxidation?
No amount of buffing will restore the color to faded red gel coat.

You'll end up with a shiny, mottled, funky off color.

That's one of the reasons Hobies now come in any color you want. As long as it's white.
Author:  janek.w [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heavy Oxidation?
So your saying I should re paint?
Author:  MBounds [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heavy Oxidation?
Personally, I'd never paint a boat.

However, that boat is so faded that paint (or re-gel coat) is your only option to make it pretty.
Author:  Sail Revolution [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heavy Oxidation?
If I may, I would like to disagree with Mr. Bounds (except for the not painting it part). You don't know until you try. You're in Calgary, you've got all winter to play around, right?

Clean the whole thing with a scotchbrite pad and some Simple Green. Get a real buffer, not a Harbor Freight cheapy, and not a sander; a nice low speed buffer with a big wooly bonnet, and use this:

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Take your time, do it twice. Don't heat the surface up too much. Clean the bonnet often. Do it three times if needed. Then wax it. If anything's going to work it's that process right there. It may not, but you'll just have to find out.

Now there's going to be 15 guys that post right after this that have had some luck with Krylon or Mop-N-Glo or kerosene and a torch or numerous other products, and then there's going to be 15 more dudes that say not to wax it. Don't listen to them, I'm a professional. :lol:

And, if that's you in the pic, you're young enough to hack this process. Yeah, it's a lot of work. Your arms will hurt, your back will hurt, and you'll be covered with schmutz. If you don't hurt after doing it, go do it again until you do.

Good luck, dude!
Author:  MBounds [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Heavy Oxidation?
Finally! Someone that used "schmutz" (Yiddish for "little dirt") in the correct context!

Seriously, Jeremy's right. You've got nothing to lose by trying his method. I'll still bet that the red is faded too much to bring back. Just look at the difference between the color of the outside stbd hull and the inside of the port hull.
Author:  sunvista [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Heavy Oxidation?
My old boat has orange decks. I've tried many polishing and waxing products and buffers and have had some success with bringing back the original color however, after three weeks on the beach it just hazes over again and looks as though I had done absolutely nothing.
Author:  reelknotty [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Heavy Oxidation?
red or anything in the red family is the worst color for oxidation. Look at all the cars out there with faded nasty paint then notice the percentage of those cars that are red. For some reason if not constently maintained it fades out in 5-10 years. My vote would be to re-gelcoat them and make them any color you want. Then its maintain, maintain, maintain. Give them a quick rub with the buffer every spring and they should stay nice for a long time.
Author:  sailinghagens [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Heavy Oxidation?
Perhaps the '77 baby blue is easier to work with than the other colors . . . . however I rescued one that had been sitting under pine trees for 14 years and other than the textured top surface, (and scratches, dings, repairs, etc) the gelcoat looks new. I ran a hand sander over the tops with 150 grit, then 600, then a wool bonnet buffer with a medium grit rubbing compound, then polish/wax. Yes, 4 times. On the sides, I skipped the 150 grit step. Be careful, it's easy to sand right through the gelcoat.

I have some pix, and can post later.
Author:  xanderwess [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heavy Oxidation?
No shi t?? That boat is RED??
Author:  MBounds [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heavy Oxidation?
xanderwess wrote:
No shi t?? That boat WAS RED??

Fixed it for you.

It might have been tangerine, a reddish orange used in the '70s
Author:  janek.w [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heavy Oxidation?
Jeremy is right. I've got all winter. I'm gonna go for it; if it turns out bad, I'll just repaint her. If it comes to repainting (hopefully not) I'm guessing my best bet would be to go white. right?

Thanks guys!
Author:  gary eudy [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heavy Oxidation?
look at Surf City video do per video except use poly glow as last step instead of wax
Author:  J_Eaton [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heavy Oxidation?
gary eudy wrote:
look at Surf City video do per video except use poly glow as last step instead of wax
Surf City Catamarans wrote:
and then there's going to be 15 more dudes that say not to wax it. Don't listen to them, I'm a professional. :lol:
Wow! It only took 30 hours and 25 minutes for this thread to hit the ditch :lol:
Author:  janek.w [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Heavy Oxidation?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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