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I left the broken rudder in the trash can when I left the beach this morning. It broke at the screw hole that attaches it to the rudder casting. Looked like a bite was taken out of it. I never saw where the missing piece went.

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D'oh!!

And... that is not a Hobie 16 EPO rudder. That is a Euro Tiger blade.

On the 16 blade... for which this is the topic...

Upper casting bolt hole I'd imagine?

Likely you were steering hard with the rudders not locked down. Typical of shallow water launching. That will break any rudder. Sheet out the main a bit... sheet in the jib to reduce load on the rudder until you can lock them down.

And... that is not a Hobie 16 EPO rudder. That is a Euro Tiger blade.

On the 16 blade... for which this is the topic...

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I backed the rudder into the sand when I hit the first wave.

they are KINDA similar, no?

Author:	GD_NC [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:36 pm ]
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Wow. Sailed my old boat with EPO rudders for 12 years without any problems. This weekend I broke a rudder on my first trip thru the surf. Do EPO rudders weaken with age? I just replaced both rudders with new white ones. I do a lot of ocean sailing and didn't want to break another.

Author:	Karl Brogger [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:01 pm ]
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Can you post a picture of the break?

Author:	GD_NC [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:43 pm ]
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I left the broken rudder in the trash can when I left the beach this morning. It broke at the screw hole that attaches it to the rudder casting. Looked like a bite was taken out of it. I never saw where the missing piece went.

Author:	MBounds [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:50 pm ]
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GD_NC wrote: I left the broken rudder in the trash can when I left the beach this morning. It broke at the screw hole that attaches it to the rudder casting. Looked like a bite was taken out of it. I never saw where the missing piece went. You threw away a repairable rudder.

Author:	Tallguy1 [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:27 pm ]
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This happened this weekend: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150302445297243&set=a.10150110190472243.288095.694937242&type=1&theater We were sailing downwind, breeze was about 15 knots, gusts to 20. We were on a starboard tack and that's the starboard rudder, so it wasn't super loaded and we are pretty sure we didnt hit anything ( anything hard anyway). I was flying the spin out on the wire and heard some crunchy, crackling noises. Then a big SNAP, and I see the rudder flopping around... We had a collision during a race last month, the port rudder had some damage due to the other boat landing on my tiller. But the starboard one hadn't had a big hit, was in good shape, at least from the outside. I'm guessing it's just plain old fatigue, given that we sail these boats hard and put em away wet. Oh well, new rudders are on the way! Let's hope they make it before the North Americans!!!

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Author:	HiFiRobbie [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:42 am ]
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"This content is currently unavailable The page you requested cannot be displayed at the moment. It may be temporarily unavailable, the link you clicked on may have expired, or you may not have permission to view this page." D'oh!!

Author:	Tallguy1 [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:42 am ]
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Bummer, it's a shot of my rudder Snapped in half just under where it lines up with the transom, ugly break.

Author:	MBounds [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:53 am ]
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HiFiRobbie wrote: "This content is currently unavailable The page you requested cannot be displayed at the moment. It may be temporarily unavailable, the link you clicked on may have expired, or you may not have permission to view this page." D'oh!! It's the privacy settings in FB. I'm friends with Blair, so I could see it. Pretty nasty. Blair, I think you can change the privacy settings for one photo or an album to "Everyone" and that will fix it.

Author:	Tallguy1 [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:36 am ]
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Photo now public, all can enjoy my pain. The good news is I already had new style rudders on order. I just hope they come fast enough to get the gudgeons installed and maybe do a test sail before the NAs!!!

Author:	mmiller [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:21 pm ]
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And... that is not a Hobie 16 EPO rudder. That is a Euro Tiger blade. On the 16 blade... for which this is the topic... Upper casting bolt hole I'd imagine? Likely you were steering hard with the rudders not locked down. Typical of shallow water launching. That will break any rudder. Sheet out the main a bit... sheet in the jib to reduce load on the rudder until you can lock them down.

Author:	GD_NC [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 4:56 pm ]
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mmiller wrote: And... that is not a Hobie 16 EPO rudder. That is a Euro Tiger blade. On the 16 blade... for which this is the topic... Upper casting bolt hole I'd imagine? Likely you were steering hard with the rudders not locked down. Typical of shallow water launching. That will break any rudder. Sheet out the main a bit... sheet in the jib to reduce load on the rudder until you can lock them down. I was launching in very light wind. Couldn't get enough speed up to push the boat over the surf quickly enough. I backed the rudder into the sand when I hit the first wave. I hate fiberglass rudder pins but they probably would have saved me a few hundred bucks. : )

Author:	Tallguy1 [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:19 pm ]
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mmiller wrote: And... that is not a Hobie 16 EPO rudder. That is a Euro Tiger blade. On the 16 blade... for which this is the topic... . Understood, Matt, but they are KINDA similar, no?

Author:	Hammond [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:54 pm ]
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If you use pins that can break, don't forget to leash the entire rudder/tiller/casting assembly to the boat (leash). They sink quick, and not always in shallow water.

Author:	mmiller [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:11 am ]
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GD_NC wrote: I backed the rudder into the sand when I hit the first wave. Yep... that could do it. Could also bust the gudgeons or transom.

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Author:	mmiller [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:14 am ]
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Tallguy1 wrote: they are KINDA similar, no? Not really. Very different construction. Same issues with breakage though. Heavy steering in shallow water or backing down in a wave and hitting the bottom.