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| Author: | bimbambum [ Thu May 05, 2016 11:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | shrouds and lifeline |
Hi im new to h16  and going to solo sail could you put on an extra set of shrouds,beside the orginals for extra security ? thought about a lifeline..afraid of the boat leaves me if tramp brakes i will ofcourse have to lock in and out when turning,,, thinking about 2 long lines on each front/bow i guess the boat will capsize or turn against the wind if the pull comes from the one of the bows/fronts any experinces ?? |
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| Author: | TiberiusGV [ Fri May 06, 2016 7:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: shrouds and lifeline |
Yes you can put an extra set of shrouds, but why? If you're concerned about them then replace them. I've only ever heard of people putting extra shrouds on if they are doing some crazy long distance adventures. If you are putting extra shrouds then it would be kinda pointless just to use all the same attachment points. You would need an additional mast tang probably higher then the original, and that might not work well with a comptip mast if that's what you have. You would also need additional attachment points rear of your current ones along the lip of you hulls so you would have to build those up with some fiberglass work. The additional shrouds would also be longer than your current ones so they would need to be custom made. They would get in the way while trapezing and would limit the range of your mainsail while going down wind. As for a life line your boat isn't just going to sail off without you on it. If you're falling off its probably because you're flipping your boat. I've seen videos of people depth charging off the side who didn't clip into their trap wire, but that loss of someone at the helm and loss of counter weight will probably end in your boat tipping over or rounding up into the wind. I recommend you sail your boat as is before you figure out how you need to change it. If the modifications you are suggesting are such a requirement then thery probably would have been implemented long ago. The H16 design is over 40 years old. Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | bimbambum [ Fri May 06, 2016 8:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: shrouds and lifeline |
Th for your answer ) the reason i ask about lifeline..is i read many places that if you get separatet from your boat..it can drift fast than you can swim.... the shrouds... i also seen several post about the wires snapping.. i can live with that but see the boat drift away will be bad ( sailing in open water ) |
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| Author: | hrtsailor [ Fri May 06, 2016 9:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: shrouds and lifeline |
It is possible for the boat to sail off without you. I saw a boat pulled stern in to shore, sail off the beach by itself. Another fellow and I chased with my boat to bring it back. It depends on whether your rudders are adjusted for a lee or weather helm. A boat with a lee helm is dangerous. A weather helm will cause the boat to turn into the wind if you let go of the tiller. If you pop up a rudder, there will be extreme weather helm. In 25 years of sailing my Hobie I never came close to falling off so I am not sure how big an issue it would be. |
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| Author: | ASDASC [ Fri May 06, 2016 9:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: shrouds and lifeline |
Maybe it has to do with where you sail. I am on an inland lake, so am not in too much danger of falling off and being so far away that I couldn't swim or be rescued. Some have talked about trailing a long line behind the boat so that should that happen you can grab the line before it gets away. I have heard of them drifting due to wind and getting away, but it's not that common. If that is a concern, don't go out in really high winds. In 10-15 mph, you should be fine. Also, typically, when I fall off or tip over, I am still holding onto something, like the mainsheet or the jib sheet or the stick. When they go over, it is a weird slow motion event, unless you pitch pole. |
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| Author: | greensnopro [ Wed May 11, 2016 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: shrouds and lifeline |
I just started sailing last july, I tipped her over plenty, even pitched poled it twice, once trapped out and sent me on a tinkerbell, to the water in front of the mast still hooked on, it was a bit of a fight to get unhooked, boat stayed up and was still moving. I must have weather helm because I've never felt the boat would leave me at all. I would do as suggested and sail it. what do you mean by "lock in and out when turning"? A life line off the bow? hmmmm in the ocean it might help, if you could find it which i doubt. Good luck! |
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| Author: | bimbambum [ Thu May 12, 2016 4:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: shrouds and lifeline |
greensnopro wrote: I just started sailing last july, I tipped her over plenty, even pitched poled it twice, once trapped out and sent me on a tinkerbell, to the water in front of the mast still hooked on, it was a bit of a fight to get unhooked, boat stayed up and was still moving. I must have weather helm because I've never felt the boat would leave me at all. I would do as suggested and sail it. what do you mean by "lock in and out when turning"? A life line off the bow? hmmmm in the ocean it might help, if you could find it which i doubt. Good luck! you use a rope twice as long as the boat,,fasten it in the bow..other end a small iron ring,,so its easy to hook in and out...put the excess rope in a small kind of elastic bag you fasten on the shroud....on your self you use a kitesurf lease or like so this setup on both side of the boat,,,it works i just tried it depending on the wind the boat capsizes or just turn against the wind,,,atleast so far here we can have currents around 3-4 knots so boat is gone if your unlucky |
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| Author: | MBounds [ Thu May 12, 2016 6:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: shrouds and lifeline |
bimbambum wrote: here we can have currents around 3-4 knots so boat is gone if your unlucky If you and the boat are both in the water (even if separated), then you're moving at the same speed. The only difference being the action of the wind on the capsized boat. |
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| Author: | bimbambum [ Thu May 12, 2016 6:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: shrouds and lifeline |
i know anyway i soled my problem..boat not gonna leave without me..
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