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| Author: | 7dellseven [ Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | would you pay $6000 for this Hobie , no trailer |
Hi guys, I am finally going to bite the bullet and decide between this and another H16 I posted earlier. This guy is asking $6000 for this H16 , it has no trailer and the bottom of the hulls do not seem to be in that great of shape. It is a 2005 although he says he bought it new and it didn't touch the water until 2007 and he says it is in excellent shape but I am debating because for $4000 more I could get a new one. So just wanted to see what you thought about it pictures below. I offered 5000 cash and he said he has gotten a lot of hits on hit so it was to low and that it wasn't a project boat, so whatever , take a look. https://postimg.org/image/g6nurx68r/ https://postimg.org/image/3kdfv33rv/ https://postimg.org/image/7fc8jwxjv/ https://postimg.org/image/9imnrkxcr/ https://postimg.org/image/rcmr6m5sr/ https://postimg.org/image/rdwp017mj/ https://postimg.org/image/ggvdb9kuz/ https://postimg.org/image/u99s6wbmj/ https://postimg.org/image/qurlqrg7v/ https://postimg.org/image/bjhsq5ivv/ https://postimg.org/image/v569mclaz/ https://postimg.org/image/rzlnw52or/ https://postimg.org/image/n9r4tsmaj/ https://postimg.org/image/qcrux6197/ https://postimg.org/image/rudb8q5zv/ https://postimg.org/image/700yqwbmj/ https://postimg.org/image/5twys3nbv/ https://postimg.org/image/g6nurx68r/ |
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| Author: | HobieMarty [ Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: would you pay $6000 for this Hobie , no trailer |
I don't know, at that price and no trailer, I think I'd pass. |
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| Author: | cpnsoo [ Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: would you pay $6000 for this Hobie , no trailer |
Keels would need gel coat before they get worn any further, so that is a project. It's had 10 years of beach landings for sure. Seems to have most of the modern equipment. With a new 16 selling above 12 G now without a trailer, I think your offer was fair. You don't show the sails in any photos, are they in good shape? |
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| Author: | 7dellseven [ Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: would you pay $6000 for this Hobie , no trailer |
Thanks cpnsoo and Hobie Marty appreciate the feed back , yeah I think I am going to pass without the trailer and plus the keels being worn I just do not think it was worth it |
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| Author: | HobieMarty [ Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: would you pay $6000 for this Hobie , no trailer |
You can find an older model, in good condition for less money. It took 3 or 4 months of searching last year, every other day checking boats for sale through many venues and even went to look at a couple in person. Drove 4 hours one way to look at a Turbo 14 that looked good in pictures but in person, was beat up. I too was not looking for a project. When I found my boat I was more than ready to get her and met the sellers offer completely because I didn't want this one to get away. The boat was around 3 grand and even though it is an older boat, I thought the price was reasonable. My boat was a 2 owner boat, garage kept, very lightly used, no soft spots anywhere on the hulls, everything about the boat was like new and very well taken care of. It included a very nice trailer with sail storage tube and spare tire, a set of new cat trax beach wheels, and a fitted cover for the boat. The boat itself has double trapezes, 2 harnesses, extra hardware, arriba stick hiking stick that is fiberglass, sail repair kit, and original performance manual, Hobie assembly manual, and a manual for the trailer. The sails were bright and crisp as well. Like I said before, it took a while to find what I was looking for and even though my boat is an older one, she is like new and with the condition and extras that came with the boat, I feel that what was paid was fair. Beach wheels are pricey and the cover alone is about a grand. So keep looking. Good boats are out there, you just have to be diligent and keep up the search. Wishing you good luck. |
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| Author: | MBounds [ Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: would you pay $6000 for this Hobie , no trailer |
It's pretty much a pristine boat (but no sail photos?) Are the black spots on the keels trailer roller scuffs or actual worn gel coat? I just sold my 2007 16 for $5900 with no trailer. This boat is in similar condition. And an "older model" will not have everything that's been done to the boat since the mid-'80s. While older boats are superficially similar to post-2000 boats, they are not the same. Lighter, stiffer, better rudders - the list goes on. |
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| Author: | HobieMarty [ Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: would you pay $6000 for this Hobie , no trailer |
Well, I would guess it's all in what you want out of the boat. Older models have older running gear of course but that didnt matter to me as I wasn't getting the boat to race, and use it for fun and casual sailing. Personally, I would not purchase a boat that didn't have a trailer, not only do you have the cost of the boat, you have the added expense of a trailer and they ain't cheap! Anyhoo. |
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| Author: | MBounds [ Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: would you pay $6000 for this Hobie , no trailer |
It's not just a racing thing - newer boats just work better and are much more pleasurable / easier to sail. Not everyone needs a trailer. The guy I sold my 16 to (someone I've known for 30 years) certainly didn't. It was not his first boat. Or his second. Or even his third. Actually, I think he owns at least four or five boats now (14, 16, 17 and Wild Cat). |
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| Author: | HobieMarty [ Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: would you pay $6000 for this Hobie , no trailer |
If an older boat is kept up and wasn't used much and is kept tight and everything kept in nice working order, I would think the boat would sail fine. I understand the older boat is not going to be like a new one, but I think my older boat sails just fine. As for the trailer deal, I know everyone's needs are not all the same. A trailer is a must have for me as I am about a 30 minute drive to our lake house and 4 hours from the beach, that's why I said, "personally", when I made the comment about not purchasing a boat that didn't have a trailer. By the way, there is a 2004 H16 in good shape in St Joe Beach, Fl (near Panama City) for $4700.00 and has a trailer. I saw it on Craigslist just now. |
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| Author: | dorienc [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: would you pay $6000 for this Hobie , no trailer |
Are the beach wheels included, and is that something you would use? I don't know if that's wear on the bottoms, or just marking? What's the seller say about it? Here's a link to one in NJ for under 4000 with a trailer. http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2007- ... -103082444 |
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| Author: | MBounds [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: would you pay $6000 for this Hobie , no trailer |
dorienc wrote: Here's a link to one in NJ for under 4000 with a trailer. http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2007- ... -103082444 That's not a 2007. More like 1985. The hull graphics, jib traveler cars (surface mounted track is pre-1995) and general decrepit-ness give it away.
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| Author: | HobieMarty [ Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: would you pay $6000 for this Hobie , no trailer |
Agree, definitely not a 2007 model for sure. Even for an older model, in that condition, that one is overpriced. |
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| Author: | cpnsoo [ Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: would you pay $6000 for this Hobie , no trailer |
The Jersey boat may date back to 84, when you blow up the photo there's no sign of a comptip mast. |
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