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 Post subject: 1986 Hobie 16 "Loki"
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:04 am 
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Well, I am finally sorting out the many issues on this tired, under-maintained 1986 Hobie 16 that I picked up on a galvanized trailer for $350 in Northern NJ almost a year ago. Hulls and sails are solid, trap is trash, as are many of the fittings. This week I sanded the old brown LBI waterline stains off of the hulls and plan to refinish them with Interlux 2 part Polyurethane bottom paint (cheaper and easier than Gelcoat) although I have considered topside paint due to it's cheaper and less thick nature.

The boat has many "little issues" the mast tang is not rusty, but has a bend, leading me to believe that it needs to be replaced. One of the shroud anchors is missing its gunnel nut and II have just noticed a slight forward bend in the dolphin striker post. I have replaced all of the deck hardware with Harken products, including a 6:1 Main-sheet system (37ft line) and updated remote travelers.

The boat has still "crisp" 86' Nationals sails which I intend to keep, the standing rigging is highly suspect and will be replaced as well as a massive failure last year regarding the mast base plate.

Overall I know I am going to replace the:
Stays
Lines (already complete)
Mast Base Plate
Trampoline

Not sure if I need to replace:
Dolphin Striker
Mast Tang
Trapezes (old style)

Any advice regarding these parts would be appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: 1986 Hobie 16 "Loki"
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:31 am 
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Likely no need to replace:
Dolphin Striker
Mast Tang
Trapezes (old style)

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 Post subject: Re: 1986 Hobie 16 "Loki"
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:32 pm 
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Even with the bends in them?

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 Post subject: Re: 1986 Hobie 16 "Loki"
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:33 pm 
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mmiller wrote:
Likely no need to replace:
Dolphin Striker
Mast Tang
Trapezes (old style)


Also, the mast tang is not rusted, nor is the dolphin striker post, but they are both bent

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 Post subject: Re: 1986 Hobie 16 "Loki"
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:57 pm 
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Depends on how much I guess. Lots of posts get bent from using a trailer winch to load the boat. The post can be bent back as the loads will be compression. The tang? Cracks? Stainless does give a bit and can be bent back.

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 Post subject: Re: 1986 Hobie 16 "Loki"
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:23 pm 
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Not intending to hijack the post, but is there anyway to find out what hull numbers went to nationals in the 80s?

I have a set of 86 hulls That I acquired and I’m using to piece together a boat from remains of a few, and I met a gentleman nearby who has a boat that is just 44 off in the “serial” portion of his hull numbers — And he is the original owner and picked his boat up at nationals. (Our decals and such match, he’s running newer sails; I don’t have this boat’s sails.)

While all I have from that 86 boat is the hulls and frame, it would feel just a little bit more special if I discovered I was rehabbing a boat with a documented history.


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 Post subject: Re: 1986 Hobie 16 "Loki"
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:03 am 
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*Update

Hull sides have some concerning behavior...when pressed incredibly hard by thumb they give maybe .5mm and make barley audible crunches. I have heard that these are very bad, though it does take considerable effort to produce them on this boat. Should I be worried?

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 Post subject: Re: 1986 Hobie 16 "Loki"
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:34 pm 
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Instead of using just your thumb, place your entire palm on the hull and press firmly. A small amount of deflection is normal on older boats or on very broad areas of the hull. Significant deflection is a bad sign. You can also knock on the hull with your knuckles. A nice crisp sound is good. A dull thud is bad.

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 Post subject: Re: 1986 Hobie 16 "Loki"
PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:03 am 
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Smaller soft spots (~12" diameter) are easily detected as they are much softer (4x) than the surrounding area. It is normal for flatter regions to be about twice as soft as curved regions. If you are unsure about whether you are feeling the effects of geometry or soft spots check similarly shaped areas on the same hull and the same spot on the opposite hull.

Large soft spots are very soft (10x) and give 1/2" or more under firm pressure. It is not uncommon for large soft spots to appear equally on both hulls.

Soft spots sound dull. The relationship between force applied and deflection is non-linear.

Good hulls sound crisp. The relationship between force applied and deflection is mostly linear.

All soft spots are repairable, however many dispute whether it is worth the effort once they get really big.


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 Post subject: Re: 1986 Hobie 16 "Loki"
PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:12 am 
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I am a huge fan of the '85 Nationals red sails! Would love to see a pic of yours.

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