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 Post subject: main rigging
PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:38 am 
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hey matt, I've been wanting a 194h for some time now, but knowing that my 1971 16 has the two (brackets?) on the boom... I have 1 triple block that was on the boom, but nothing for the bottom, and no cleats. would you recommend going ahead with drilling into the boom and getting the 104h or maybe should I think about going back to the old system? thanks, willy


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 Post subject: Re: main rigging
PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:50 am 
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No cleats? You are better off with the original 5:1 and cleats! You can convert the original to 6:1 too. That requires one more return, so a single with becket would need to be a double on the boom.

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 Post subject: Re: main rigging
PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:25 pm 
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thanks, my '71 came with only a single triple block, for the boom, no cleats. I'm back and forth on what to do. I have only seen 1 pic showing the 5:1 rigging and I can't for the life of me find an old enough owners manual that might describe this system. Any recommendations? I'm looking at a place called vela based out of texas that has a reasonable price for a lower triple if I want to drill my boom and convert to 6:1. anyone have an opinion on that? I'd rather get used original parts but I really can't find them, which surprises me since so many people have converted to the smaller main blocks. so the questions are where can I get a diagram of 5:1 setup and is vela reputable


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 Post subject: Re: main rigging
PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:30 pm 
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We have a 5:1. Suits our needs.

mmiller wrote:
5 to 1 Mainsheet looks something like this:

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 Post subject: Re: main rigging
PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:47 am 
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I guess I’m missing something - if you already have a single triple for your upper block, then why would you need to drill your boom? A 1971 Hobie 16 should have come with two main block hangers on the boom for the (then) stock 5:1 system. But regardless, with a triple upper block, you only need one hanger anyway, so no drilling or riveting should be needed.

I don’t see any point in going to a 5:1 system, if you already have the triple upper block, then you’re already half way towards a low profile 6:1 system. You just need to get a triple lower hexaratchet style block (with cleat) for your lower.

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 Post subject: Re: main rigging
PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:31 pm 
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the boat only came with one triple, 57 mm, no cleats so it's for upper. I'd like to get a used lower locally if I can, but... I think it was on joseph bennet's channel that was saying because 5:1 has a center between the two hangers, when converting to a 6:1 you should add a hanger right between the two. I'm not going to be racing, so would this matter much?


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 Post subject: Re: main rigging
PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:30 pm 
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Just attach the triple to the existing aft boom bale.

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 Post subject: Re: main rigging
PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:14 pm 
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thanks, I'll play around with that first. aft. All I want to do is fish, and there have been more and more sightings of great whites in my area, OVER 16 feet, so I will feel better if i'm not on a 7 foot kayak!


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 Post subject: Re: main rigging
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:22 am 
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does anyone have experience with the viadana brand blocks? they're half the price, so it's tempting unless there's a good reason not to.


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 Post subject: Re: main rigging
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:13 pm 
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does anyone have experience with lewmar? it seems like their 60mm could work for my triple lower wit cam... matt, the hobie dealer in sd told me that they can't get the h194 but they have an equivalent at a similar price.

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