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| Author: | hocysk8er [ Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Hobie 16 Jib battens keep getting caught on the mast |
Hobie 16 Jib battens keep getting caught on the mast. When I come about they get caught on the mast and the sail wires and I have to pull the jub over. Why is this happening? How do I fix it? |
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| Author: | ncmbm [ Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:37 pm ] |
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common problem with the 16. There were battens available that are hinged, may not be available anymore. Usually the hang occurs in light air, a manual adjustment is necessary if they hang. |
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| Author: | tjp [ Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:08 pm ] |
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The hinged battens are horrible - they wear holes in the sail and don't always snap back straight. Things to do to keep it from snagging: 1) Trim the battens so that just the cap extends out of the batten pocket (still need room to tighten it of course). 2) Get Halyard Holders and install them on the mast (Hobie Catalog pg. 27) 3) When it does get held up (will still happen in light air no matter what you do), pull DOWN and FORWARD on the clew of the jib to clear. |
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| Author: | mmiller [ Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Jib |
The H16 jib is large and powerful. Yes, the battens over-lap the mast. There are several tricks to handle it more easily: - Tie the halyards aft. I take the main halyard aft and around the shroud then back to the mast, hook under the downhaul cleat. Then tie off on the halyard cleat. - Get a halyard keeper clip #114 out of the Hobie Parts catalog for the jib halyard. Routes the halyard down the side of the mast. - Trim the battens so they are just poking out of the sail pockets. - Tape over / around the batten ends. Lay sail tape about 6 inches forward and then around the batten end and up the opposite side. This smooths the area so less can get caught on the halyards. - After backwinding the jib through a tack. Grab (from the new weather side) the back of the bottom batten and push forward and then across. This bends the entire jib to pass through more easily. Pushing at the middle of the jib is pointless. |
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| Author: | Skipshot [ Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jib |
mmiller wrote: - Trim the battens so they are just poking out of the sail pockets.
What tool do you recommend to trim the battens? |
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| Author: | tjp [ Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:53 am ] |
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Hacksaw. |
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| Author: | rbell [ Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:15 pm ] |
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I can't second matt millers thoughts strongly enough. People think tying the main halyard off aft behind teh shrouds' trapeze , is a lot of work, but it is very effective. I actually route mine, after taking it aft of the shrouds, and route it above the gooseneck, so the line ends up between the tack of teh sail and teh gooseneck, then around the downhaul cleat. The halyard clip also is something I would not want to sail without. |
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| Author: | russiet [ Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Get rid of the caps |
Throw out the batten caps. Cut the battens off flush with the leach. Drill holes to match the batten line grommets. Then tie the battens into place and tape over as mentioned in a previous post. You won't have any adjustability after this, but I think the jib should be trimmed pretty flat in most instances (worry more about the main battens). I have it set so the wrinkles are just out. It will still catch on the jib halyard, but it will be minimized. When it catches, stand up holding the mast with one hand, and use your other hand, thumb down, to yank the jib leach down and forward. Be forceful. |
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| Author: | swisscat [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:21 am ] |
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I have exactly the same problem in light winds. My jib battens are about 5 cm too long. Should I just cut this 5 cm off? Thanks Chriss |
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| Author: | russiet [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:00 am ] |
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Yes. Cut it off. Sand or file the sharp corners on the end that goes into the batten pocket. I like to squirt super glue on that end and let it wick into the fiberglas. Let it cure before you put it into the sail! That will help keep it from splintering. |
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| Author: | JRagg [ Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Get rid of the caps |
russiet wrote: Cut the battens off flush with the leach. Drill holes to match the batten line grommets. Then tie the battens into place and tape over as mentioned in a previous post.
You won't have any adjustability after this, but I think the jib should be trimmed pretty flat in most instances (worry more about the main battens). I have it set so the wrinkles are just out. Funny, when I got my jib it was done like this except that instead of tying the battens to the grommets they had been riveted in. I'm not 100% sure on the size, but it looked like the largest aluminum ones I could find at Home Depot. I broke 3 battens a few weeks ago (horrible pitchpole) and plan to replace them in the same manner. It's permanent, but since I'm still in the early learning stages I'm not real worried if it stretches the jib much. I'll try putting sail tape over the ends, that should help getting it unhung for when it does get hung up (in really light air). |
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| Author: | Barren [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:36 am ] |
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Yep... it's the stupid light air's fault! Matt's got the answers. |
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| Author: | georgeh [ Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | let the jib pop over |
What I do and it most of the time works is, right before you come about sheet the jib in a bit and leave it. Come about and get on yer next tack, as soon as the main is full and sheeted in release the jib which is now full of air and let it "pop" past the mast and sheet in quickly, with practice this can be done VERY quickly. 97% of the time this works for me. just mt 2 cents. George |
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