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Author:  cjm [ Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Newbie needs help
I am trying to set up my brand new H16, so far unsuccessfully. There is too much mast rake. I have the front forestay in the 2nd hole from the top on the adjuster and the shrouds are in the 2nd hole from the bottom. When I add jib tension, it does take up the slack in the shrouds, though it only moves the mast forward slightly. Wiithout any downhaul, the boom takes a position just 10 inches above the traveler without enough room for the main blocks.

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It seems like the front crossbar is bowed up and back too much, and seems higher compared to the aft crossbar than pictures I have seen, but maybe that's my imagination.

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Please, you thoughts?

Thanks,
Charlie
Author:  sunjammers [ Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:46 pm ]
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Where do you live?
We need to hook you up with a local Hobie fleet.
Rig the Jib and then take another picture. We can't tell anything w/o the jib raised and tensioned properly.

hang in there we'll get you on the water in no time!
Author:  cjm [ Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:34 pm ]
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I'm in Maine.

I will try to post here with a picture of the jib tomorrow. I do want to be able to start out with just the mainsail up.

Thanks for you help.
Author:  sunjammers [ Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:39 pm ]
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The boat handles much better, and is easier for learning I think, with the jib.

16's just aren't balanced well w/o the jib, hard to steer.
Author:  mmadge [ Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:05 pm ]
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It looks like your main is not raised to the top of the mast.When you get the main to the top it will raise the boom.
Author:  J_Eaton [ Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:13 pm ]
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Charlie,

Ditto on the no jib rigging, bad idea on the Hobie 16. Hey, I went from zero to Hobie 16, if I can do it, you can do it.

One thing I noticed in the picture is the Main sail is not hoisted all the way to the top. Have someone help by pushing up on the batten pockets while you tug, push up slack and tug again until she's all the way up, and then while holding tension on the halyard, lock it in the vee cleat (way up near the top) by holding the halyard against the front of the mast. Pull down on the boom, sail should move a little, but not fall down. Repeat if necessary until the halyard's locked.

That will give you some room for the main blocks :)
Author:  wannahobie [ Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:14 am ]
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Hey, I don't own a 16 and never rigged one, but looking at the pic of the adjuster, you are connecting the forestay in the last hole at top, which if I did on my Wave (I have the same adjuster), my mast would be way raked. Try bringing the forestay down 3 to 4 holes.
Author:  sunjammers [ Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:36 am ]
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the forestay is rigged correctly.
f you rig your wave like this you will go up wind better!
when we use to run our play races on waves I had 2 adjusters up front.
Author:  wannahobie [ Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:43 am ]
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sunjammers wrote:
the forestay is rigged correctly.
f you rig your wave like this you will go up wind better!
when we use to run our play races on waves I had 2 adjusters up front.
I have a ten hole adjuster, I will give it a try!
Author:  srm [ Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:11 am ]
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Others have already commented but I'll throw in 2c. The mainsail is clearly not up all the way. The halyard has to be hooked in the "catch" at the top of the mast. The position of the forestay in the adjuster makes virtually no difference since the luff wire in the jib is what ultimately supports the mast while sailing (the forestay should be slack). Rig the boat with the main fully hoisted and the jib installed. If the rake still seems too extreme, you can move the shrouds up in your side adjusters (you said you were in the 2nd hole from the bottom, so there's room to go up). I'm not a 16 guy, so I don't know where the top racers run the mast, but at one point I believe the ball park measurement was to take the main halyard to the front bridle bolt, mark that spot, and it should be about 1 foot below the hull at the bottom corner of the transom (with the boat fully rigged).

Oh, and the front cross bar is supposed to have more arch than the rear (which I believe has none).

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Author:  cjm [ Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:39 pm ]
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I'm getting closer. It was hard getting up the last 10 inches to hook the main halyard. I also went up to the middle hole on the shrouds.

Thanks everyone,
Charlie

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Author:  mmadge [ Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:08 pm ]
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Pre feed the last 10" of luff in the sail track then pull the halyard.
Author:  wannahobie [ Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:24 pm ]
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mmadge wrote:
Pre feed the last 10" of luff in the sail track then pull the halyard.
There is a post by Hobie tech Matt Miller for more tips like this. See it here http://www.hobiecat.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=371

If no one has said it yet, congrats on your purchase. She's a beaut! Have you picked a favorite place to sail her?
Author:  cjm [ Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:54 pm ]
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I expect to mostly be sailing on Damariscotta Lake, Damariscotta River, and John's Bay. Where in central Maine do you sail? Thanks for the congrats, I think it's going to be great.
Author:  sunjammers [ Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:13 pm ]
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Pull the jib tighter, it looks like it still has slack in it, the jib should be holding 100% of the weight with the forestay just flopping around.
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