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 Post subject: Traveler upgrade?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:41 pm 
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I ran my new blocks with my 5/16 salsa line today. I loved the way that the line ran through the blocks, feels great on my hands, and just "felt good".

I had one issue: when the wind would pick up to 20 or so (it was a steady 12-15 today), the line would slip through the traveler cam cleat, especially on a beam reach when running the traveler at the straps.

I would hit a puff, turn down, and the line would slip and uncleat the traveler.

I have a factory traveler cleat. Is there an upgrade that holds the 5/16 salsa line better? I never had the issue with the old Mainsheet.

Today wasn't a total loss though, a second H14 showed up for a rare sighting of two 14's in the same place at the same time.
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 Post subject: Re: Traveler upgrade?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:00 am 
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From what I can tell, your "factory cleat" is one from the '80s. They don't work nearly as well as the modern cleats (Harken or Ronstan).

Harken 240 is what you want:
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Replace the bullseye with Harken 161 dual sheaves for very low friction operation:
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 Post subject: Re: Traveler upgrade?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:57 am 
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Yup, that's exactly what I need. Just ordered one. Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Traveler upgrade?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:28 am 
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MBounds wrote:
Replace the bullseye with Harken 161 dual sheaves for very low friction operation:
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Hey Matt...do you use that 161 on the traveler car as well?

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 Post subject: Re: Traveler upgrade?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:24 am 
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What's the verdict RE: the 161 on the traveler car?

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 Post subject: Re: Traveler upgrade?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:36 am 
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83Turbo wrote:
What's the verdict RE: the 161 on the traveler car?

Probably overkill. If you have problems with the car itself moving smoothly, most likely the cars' pin bearings are worn.

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 Post subject: Re: Traveler upgrade?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:45 pm 
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Harken 161 is too big for the bullseye. The bullseye screws are just over an inch apart, the 161 doesn't fit...if you go smaller, it may not handle a 5/16 mainsheet.

The harken covers for the sheaves have screws set over 1.5 inches apart.

Is there an adaptor of sorts that I'm missing?

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 Post subject: Re: Traveler upgrade?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:10 pm 
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Any way to make the 161 work? 14/16 should be the same traveler cam/swivel...right? In this pic, the "traveler tamer" looks like it is offset in the screw holes, or maybe it's just the angle.

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