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Author:  Zephyr [ Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:54 pm ]
Post subject:  How easy is it to rig a Hobie Wave compared to a H20?
I own a Hobie 20, but don't get to sail it often enough becuase the rigging and derigging takes me more time than I get sailing. I am going to sell it now and hope to get something smaller and easier to both rig and sail. How long does it take to rig and derig someone who is novice at this?
Author:  mmiller [ Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How easy is it to rig a Hobie Wave compared to a H20?
10 Minutes... max on a Wave.

Step mast. Hoist main. Hook mainsheet blocks onto main clew grommet. Downhaul... sail.
Author:  scuzzlebutt [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How easy is it to rig a Hobie Wave compared to a H20?
mmiller wrote:
10 Minutes... max on a Wave.


I think this is a little low. Maybe more like 15min max :lol: and you can set it up solo AND sail it solo in any amount of wind (30mph wind on a Wave solo is so freakin much fun). Easy to right. You can take a passenger or two also.

Rigging a 20 SUCKS. Takes 2 to step the mast, Setting all the downhaul line and pulleys, positive mast rotator, mast rotation limiter, put the boom on, zip the jib on the forestay, raise the main, find the daggerboards, dont forget drain plugs, put on trap harness, put the rudders on (and dont mix up port/starboard rudders), etc.

However, Wave is slower, quite a bit slower than H20. Wave gives a bumpier/jerkier ride in chop (feels like riding over a bump in a pickup truck versus a lincoln town car) - the 20 is just a smooth ride. Wave is not much fun when the wind is light. Wave does not have a lot of things to tune unlike the 20 where you can fine tune everything.

As far as ease of use, you cant beat the Wave.
Author:  zzcoreyzz [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How easy is it to rig a Hobie Wave compared to a H20?
Actually it depends on whether the hulls/trampoline are assembled or not.

I Have a classic which I cartop (all solo).
- Takes about 20 minutes to load/cartop/lash/secure from my garage to the car
- About 30 minutes to take down/assemble at the beach
- About 30 minutes to disassemble/hose off/secure back on the car
- About 10 minutes off the car and back into the garage

With another strong person helping me I would take 33% time off of the above

Of that time, raising the mast/sail, I would say:
- (1) minute: Secure the main mast, slide in the comptip
- (2) minutes: 1 minute each to secure the stays
- (1) minute: run the haylard thru
- (1) minute to raise the mast, clip the mainstay
- (3) minutes to raise the sail/downhaul and tie
= 7 minutes total

(not much faster with a helper)

Of course, the first time I assembled and sailed her it took me (2) hours on each end as I figured things out, especially since I was doing it all solo.

So much of it is sequence (like: make sure you dissconnect the tiller crossbar BEFORE you lower the mast, otherwise you will be standing there holding the mast with both arms, looking at the tiller in the way and trying to figure out how to scratch your head)
Author:  zzcoreyzz [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How easy is it to rig a Hobie Wave compared to a H20?
Uh duh

(8) minutes total
Author:  IndyWave [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How easy is it to rig a Hobie Wave compared to a H20?
3 minutes to raise the sail? What are you doing, singing the "Star Spangled Banner" while you raise it? :D I'd say 15 seconds to raise, 30 seconds to tie off.

I store mine mast up, with a tarp on the tramp. I spend more time messing with the tarp than I do rigging/unrigging the boat.
Author:  zzcoreyzz [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How easy is it to rig a Hobie Wave compared to a H20?
No... 3 minutes is right

15 seconds to remove from bag
30 seconds to fold up sailbag and place inside my drybag under everything else
15 seconds to unroll on trampoline
10 seconds to tie haylard
45 seconds to raise sail and reverse seat
15 seconds to downhaul and tie off
10 seconds to tie off haylard
10 seconds to spool out mainsheet and clip
= 150 seconds
/ 60 = 2.5 minutes

OK...so I rounded up.
Author:  IndyWave [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How easy is it to rig a Hobie Wave compared to a H20?
All right, I'll have to use my stop watch next time. :P You've got a few steps in there that I don't, since I keep everything in my sail locker next to the boat.

For me, the whole boat part is probably less than 2 minutes. The longest part is MY preparation: sunscreen, glasses strap, water shoes, life jacket, hat, sailing gloves, cooler, leave cell-phone & keys in locker, etc...
Author:  crobiecat [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How easy is it to rig a Hobie Wave compared to a H20?
Zephyr wrote:
I own a Hobie 20, but don't get to sail it often enough becuase the rigging and derigging takes me more time than I get sailing. I am going to sell it now and hope to get something smaller and easier to both rig and sail. How long does it take to rig and derig someone who is novice at this?


Going form H20 to a Wave is a big step down in size.
Have you considered the Hobie Getaway ?
Author:  Zephyr [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How easy is it to rig a Hobie Wave compared to a H20?
When I first mentioned I was going to buy a sailboat to my friends I got a overwhelming amount of support and interest. It made me feel very comfortable buying a boat that required two people to sail. Sadly, after I got the boat, the amount of support I got to actually sail it was far, far lower than I would have expected. I have learned the hard way that I can't rely on other people. I now want a boat that I can sail on my own or with someone else. Can the Getaway be rigged by one and sailed by one?
Author:  crobiecat [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How easy is it to rig a Hobie Wave compared to a H20?
Zephyr wrote:
When I first mentioned I was going to buy a sailboat to my friends I got a overwhelming amount of support and interest. It made me feel very comfortable buying a boat that required two people to sail. Sadly, after I got the boat, the amount of support I got to actually sail it was far, far lower than I would have expected. I have learned the hard way that I can't rely on other people. I now want a boat that I can sail on my own or with someone else. Can the Getaway be rigged by one and sailed by one?


Yes, the Getaway can be rigged by one and sailed by one, however if you are solo, the Getaway feels kind of big.
Author:  xanderwess [ Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How easy is it to rig a Hobie Wave compared to a H20?
Jeez, that is one of the biggest reasons to get a Wave: Super fast rigging. 5 min trailer to water. Everytime. It takes longer to put my bird (windvane) up than it does to tip the mast (alone) and run the sail up.
14 takes about 5 min longer.
The 20? Jeez. That sucker takes forever to set up. I used to plan (with 2 people) 45 min to get it set up and rigged for whatever wind we had.
Author:  Scott [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How easy is it to rig a Hobie Wave compared to a H20?
It's so easy a caveman can do it... :roll:

crobiecat wrote:
Zephyr wrote:
When I first mentioned I was going to buy a sailboat to my friends I got a overwhelming amount of support and interest. It made me feel very comfortable buying a boat that required two people to sail. Sadly, after I got the boat, the amount of support I got to actually sail it was far, far lower than I would have expected. I have learned the hard way that I can't rely on other people. I now want a boat that I can sail on my own or with someone else. Can the Getaway be rigged by one and sailed by one?


I got a Getaway for many of the same reasons. All my buddies were excited that I got it and it was great for about a month. Then I found myself rigging and sailing it by myself most of the time. What a pain! It was difficult to rig and sail by myself but I was able to do it. I couldn't right the darn thing by myself either. That prevented me from enjoying it fully since I never tried to push the boat to the edge. I now have a wave and it is such a blast! You will lose a ton of performance (Hobie 20 = Ferrari, Hobie Wave = Pinto) but it has never been easier to have so much fun with the wave. I am now constantly taking it out in crazy winds, flipping it over all the time, and doing things I never dared to do with the Getaway. The Wave is still big enough to look impressive and still fast enough to get the blood pumping.
Author:  J_Eaton [ Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How easy is it to rig a Hobie Wave compared to a H20?
Quote:
How easy is it to rig a Hobie Wave compared to a H20?

dating vs. marriage

running - around the block vs. a marathon

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...and if Matt Miller says 10 minutes, take it to the bank :wink:
Author:  bobreeves [ Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How easy is it to rig a Hobie Wave compared to a H20?
Bravo - zero minutes to raise the sail. But you and your sailing buddy better be sub welterweights. Can't imagine anything easier to rig. I'm 140 soaking wet after a bacon cheeseburger. Haven't taken the wife out yet - gotta learn to turn the thing around first :cry:. She's pretty small too.
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