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| Author: | domsilla [ Thu Aug 13, 2015 1:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Tandem Island Rigging - Back Seat Control? |
I have a 2011 Tandem Island and the way the sail is rigged only the front seat can deploy and reef the sail. Is that the only way it can be rigged? Is there a way to rig the T.I. so that the person sitting in the back can deploy and reef the sail? Sorry if this is a stupid question or if this has been covered several times before. All responses appreciated. Dom |
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| Author: | tonystott [ Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tandem Island Rigging - Back Seat Control? |
domsilla wrote: I have a 2011 Tandem Island and the way the sail is rigged only the front seat can deploy and reef the sail. Is that the only way it can be rigged? Is there a way to rig the T.I. so that the person sitting in the back can deploy and reef the sail? Sorry if this is a stupid question or if this has been covered several times before. All responses appreciated. Dom Easy peasy 1. Uncleat the front mainsheet, and pull it forward until just the end knot is locked in the cleat. 2. This will enable you to pull a extra towards you through the rear cleat. 3. Tie the end of the furling line to the end of the mainsheet (I use a figure eight knot), making an endless loop. 4. You should now be able to handle the sail from the rear seat. |
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| Author: | TI_Tom [ Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tandem Island Rigging - Back Seat Control? |
There are some other posts of folks that have run the furling line to the back seat via blocks running along the port side. Sent from my SPH-L720T using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | domsilla [ Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tandem Island Rigging - Back Seat Control? |
Great responses. Thank you both very much. |
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| Author: | Clintvava [ Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tandem Island Rigging - Back Seat Control? |
I added a wedge from harken that angles the cam. Makes it a bit easier to cleat/uncleat from the back seat. I too do the sheet line tied to the furing line as suggested in the thread |
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| Author: | Carl M [ Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tandem Island Rigging - Back Seat Control? |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zB7HdJR3zg this is my TI and you can see how i changed the controls to the rear seat, works really well for me |
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| Author: | scc [ Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tandem Island Rigging - Back Seat Control? |
Carl M wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zB7HdJR3zg this is my TI and you can see how i changed the controls to the rear seat, works really well for me CarlM, unable to get your video to play either inline or on YouTube. Is it just me? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Haliboo [ Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tandem Island Rigging - Back Seat Control? |
scc wrote: Carl M wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zB7HdJR3zg this is my TI and you can see how i changed the controls to the rear seat, works really well for me CarlM, unable to get your video to play either inline or on YouTube. Is it just me? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Worked ok for me? |
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| Author: | TI_Tom [ Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tandem Island Rigging - Back Seat Control? |
Worked for me. Sent from my SPH-L720T using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | scc [ Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tandem Island Rigging - Back Seat Control? |
Worked on my laptop. Not sure why no luck on iOS Tapatalk or Safari/Youtube. Thanks for helping me troubleshoot. Carl M, nice video. What is the function of the red lines from your rear akas to the cam cleats on the hull? |
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| Author: | TI_Tom [ Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tandem Island Rigging - Back Seat Control? |
I was curious about those too. Are they part of a barber hauler set up? Sent from my SPH-L720T using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | mnmpizza [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tandem Island Rigging - Back Seat Control? |
CarlM: also, i'm not sure if you have a 2015 model or not, but I noticed [in your video] that your seats look different and sturdy. Is that the 2015 seat, or did you change them? If changed, what are they? Nice video - - Shannon |
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| Author: | Carl M [ Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tandem Island Rigging - Back Seat Control? |
thanks guys it was my first video, the orange lines you see are what i believe is called a barber, the line runs from the cleat that you can see, out to the end of the aka, through a 29mm soft mount block that is tied to the aka, then hooked on the cleat with a hook just like the main sheet has, when i want to use it all i do is unfurl the sail all the way, pull the sail to me and hook the barber hook into the eye of the main sheet hook, then i can control the main sail shape with both the main sheet and the barber.. I hope this makes sense to everyone, Please note that i would never use it in strong winds due to the fact i cant depower the sail fast enough to be safe, and from my experience when the winds are high its not needed, in the last part of the video i was hitting 13MPH.. I almost forgot, it is a 2015 so it does have the better seats..... |
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| Author: | CaptainFlint [ Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tandem Island Rigging - Back Seat Control? |
tonystott wrote: domsilla wrote: I have a 2011 Tandem Island and the way the sail is rigged only the front seat can deploy and reef the sail. Is that the only way it can be rigged? Is there a way to rig the T.I. so that the person sitting in the back can deploy and reef the sail? Sorry if this is a stupid question or if this has been covered several times before. All responses appreciated. Dom Easy peasy 1. Uncleat the front mainsheet, and pull it forward until just the end knot is locked in the cleat. 2. This will enable you to pull a extra towards you through the rear cleat. 3. Tie the end of the furling line to the end of the mainsheet (I use a figure eight knot), making an endless loop. 4. You should now be able to handle the sail from the rear seat. Tony - I'm trying to figure this out but don't understand step 3. I can't figure out how I'm tieing the furling line to the mainsheet. Do you have a pic or video? Thanks! |
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| Author: | Haliboo [ Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tandem Island Rigging - Back Seat Control? |
CaptainFlint wrote: tonystott wrote: domsilla wrote: I have a 2011 Tandem Island and the way the sail is rigged only the front seat can deploy and reef the sail. Is that the only way it can be rigged? Is there a way to rig the T.I. so that the person sitting in the back can deploy and reef the sail? Sorry if this is a stupid question or if this has been covered several times before. All responses appreciated. Dom Easy peasy 1. Uncleat the front mainsheet, and pull it forward until just the end knot is locked in the cleat. 2. This will enable you to pull a extra towards you through the rear cleat. 3. Tie the end of the furling line to the end of the mainsheet (I use a figure eight knot), making an endless loop. 4. You should now be able to handle the sail from the rear seat. Tony - I'm trying to figure this out but don't understand step 3. I can't figure out how I'm tieing the furling line to the mainsheet. Do you have a pic or video? Thanks! It's really simple Cap'n... as Tony says, just tie the two ends together... using 'any' knot. The whole process goes like this worded slightly differently so hope it sheds light on what you're aiming to achieve? Uncleat the main sheet from both the front and rear cleats, then pull the main (from the rear cleat) as if you were tensioning the sail. This will strip the main through the 'whole' system - STOP before the end comes out of the 'front' cleat - then tie a knot in it and cleat it off (at the front cleat) to prevent it coming out as you will only be operating it from the back seat. Next take the end of the furling line, and the end of the main sheet (which is now as long as it can possible be) and tie them together (at the end). The only reason to do this is so that the large 'loop' of line will be available whether the sail is furled fully or out fully so that you can grab any part of the continuous loop of line and either unlleat the main or the furling drum or both? I know a picture paints a thousand words, but I'm afraid I'm stuck out in the middle of the North Sea of the UK coast on a gas platform and too far away from my TI... H |
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