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Author: | siravingmon [ Sat May 06, 2023 8:16 am ] |
Post subject: | Modifying the mirage drive plug to take the AI daggerboard |
Hi, Has anyone done this with the old 2014 AI slot-in daggerboard? if so, please share how you did it. I'd like the daggerboard to be a bit deeper for more bite and further forward for better balance when using a jib, and the mirage drive slot seems like the ideal place |
Author: | PabloNasidman [ Sun May 05, 2024 10:22 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Modifying the mirage drive plug to take the AI daggerbo |
in my place, I have mainly North-South winds, but I need to travel 25km East to the next island. But the sideways drift of the TI is so much that I have big problems making it straight and I ended about 10 km downwind on the next island . Not ideal. I am not a very experienced sailor, even if I have by now a few hundred hours on the TI. I am wondering how to reduce the sideways drift and/or if the proposed method is ideal to limit the sideways drift. Pablo |
Author: | yaw_string [ Wed May 08, 2024 8:03 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Modifying the mirage drive plug to take the AI daggerbo |
PabloNasidman wrote: the sideways drift of the TI is so much that I have big problems making it straight and I ended about 10 km downwind on the next island Your question has sat unanswered so long, let naive me post and maybe scare up some corrections by Island owners. I think fusioneng posted pix on putting a big fin thru a TI drive plug in a simple way. But good grief, you are reporting a ridiculous amount of leeway which I have never been subject to in anything including my old blimp-like inflatable sailing kayak. So some basic possible issues: - Is there a chronic current to the side? One of my sea launches has side current mostly in one direction almost regardless of tides which I have confirmed in long swims. There are current prediction maps online for many coastlines. - How well does your mirage drive resist leeway while not pedaling? The pedals should be centered vertical and side by side to keep fins straight down. You can rig bungees to allow pedaling but return to vertical at rest. Do you have big turbo fins? Island owners have posted the above matters little, but on youtube I see most Hobie kayak sailors with pedals resting at their natural and worst possible positions therefore experiencing leeway. - You are consistently pointing upwind (or upcurrent) of the destination, aren't you? From the beginning you should keep the destination on a constant bearing to lee like red path in pic below. It sounds like you have plenty of opportunity to change from a beam reach to a close reach or even a close haul from the beginning and not too late. My kayak loved close reaches but slid to lee in wave-ridden close hauls. - Do you have some drag issue which makes you linger and get more leeway? Probably not from this but I see on youtube a plague of sailors with outboards not fully retracted out of the water when not in use. - Do you overtighten the mainsheet and stall the sail? I see this often, but the sail should be let out short of snuffing the telltales. Well it's a little idiosyncratic for boomless sails, but while letting out may seem to reduce the force, the force will be in a more forward and leeway-reducing direction. ![]() ![]() |
Author: | kowbra [ Wed Jun 05, 2024 6:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Modifying the mirage drive plug to take the AI daggerbo |
Just noticed this thread... To dig into the OP post further, does the AI style daggerboard work on a TI? And, as been suggested, if the pedals are moved together to drop the fins down, does this work well as a daggerboard? If so, then perhaps the need to add an AI style daggerboard won't be needed? The original question was a good one, and hoping that now it has bubbled up that others will chime in. Thanks! Brad |
Author: | KayakingBob [ Fri Jun 07, 2024 8:24 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Modifying the mirage drive plug to take the AI daggerbo |
I've found in all the Hobie Island boats that I could point higher (closer to the wind) with the peddles together (fins strait down) than without. Also, the boats moved a bit faster without the drive in but with the cassette (plug) in. |
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