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Hi Pirate. Bad holiday for me. Got ticketed leaving a construction zone at the speed limit but entered a school zone at 35 mph... evil bastard that I am. Its serious. Then theres the dentist.Nevermind.

Shame on you Aledal...you being a professional driver and all :oops:

but sorry to read within the lines that you had dentist problems.

I know how disastrous toothaches can be. I find most of the pain associated after going to a dentist however is when the bill is presented.

But hey...
great time the other day regardless... going out with small craft warnings.
I didnt see any other small crafts out there though and dont know why I should have been warned about them. Could never figure out the terminology :
But then I look back and this 40-50 footer made it out the inlet about a half mile back.Yay!!! I have company

These little craft seem to take heavy weather well don't they Aledal though I have found it difficult to point any where near high into short choppy seas. I will try out the dagger board again though as it appears from recents discussions here that it will make a difference. :?:

So how was you cruise? Steal anything cool? :wink:

[b] I was a complete failure as a pirate this trip around Aledal with absolutely no bootie to speak of. The cruise took us to three ports in the Tongan Islands, three is the Fijian Islands and a stop off in French Noumea. I did manage to keep a wonderful clam shell that was washed up on a deserted tropical beach on Dravuni Island as a memory. There are many beautiful unspoiled islands out there but the larger cities have been buggered up by an influx of foreigners over the last few generations. The Fijians and Tongans were once fierce warriers who used canoes with outriggers not unlike our hobies but with only one outrigger. They ranged in size from singles, doubles up to the size of housboats. Steerage was by way of a swing oar which took four strong natives to manage in any sea. No plastic pins to give trouble there my friend though I am sure they would have loved our hobies. Saw the last remains of Captain Cook's ship the Bounty in the Suva museum which consists of the the gundeons and part of the rudder. History there my friend. Keep in touch as the forum has gone eerily quiet since my departure...Pirate :wink:

Author:	Aledal [ Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:23 pm ]
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Can anyone tell me what advantage the A.I. has by pulling in the Akas & Amas? I`ve never really had a need for it with the mast up & sail furled.Or even without the mast for that matter. I could understand the design if they retracted parallel to her body... then you go out with extra stability and it looks symetrical/integral.

Author:	KayakingBob [ Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:32 pm ]
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To use a dock?

Author:	Aledal [ Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:08 pm ]
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You`re asking me?Only Ketterman Himself has the answer to this stupid question of balance Or Chrisj who knows of all things...

Author:	Jim_L [ Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:44 pm ]
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Aledal wrote: Can anyone tell me what advantage the A.I. has by pulling in the Akas & Amas? Using a dock (big reason for me, as I sail from a dock more often than not). Exploring small backwater creeks & coves that are too far to peddle or paddle to (Need the amas extended to sail to them) Transport, without completely breaking down the entire boat (such as when using AI cradles) Rafting-up with other AI friends when out on the water. We usually leave the outermost amas extended, as it adds to the stability of all the boats in the raft-up. Aledal wrote: I could understand the design if they retracted parallel to her body... then you go out with extra stability and it looks symetrical/integral. As you noted, they are not parallel to the main hull when retracted. They do, in that position, actually create extra drag when you are in motion. But it is nice to be able to make yourself a little smaller when you want to get into a tight spot, or get up close to something. Happy Sailing, - Jim L

Author:	Aledal [ Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:21 pm ]
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Yep. You`re right. I`ve never used a dock or explored the tighter areas you describe.Thanks

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Author:	Pirate [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:58 am ]
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Hey Aledal my old friend. You back from your holidays yet?....Pirate

Author:	Aledal [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:51 am ]
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Hi Pirate. Bad holiday for me. Got ticketed leaving a construction zone at the speed limit but entered a school zone at 35 mph... evil bastard that I am. Its serious. Then theres the dentist.Nevermind. But hey... great time the other day regardless... going out with small craft warnings. I didnt see any other small crafts out there though and dont know why I should have been warned about them. Could never figure out the terminology : But then I look back and this 40-50 footer made it out the inlet about a half mile back.Yay!!! I have company So how was you cruise? Steal anything cool?

Author:	Pirate [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:27 pm ]
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Aledal wrote: Hi Pirate. Bad holiday for me. Got ticketed leaving a construction zone at the speed limit but entered a school zone at 35 mph... evil bastard that I am. Its serious. Then theres the dentist.Nevermind. Shame on you Aledal...you being a professional driver and all but sorry to read within the lines that you had dentist problems. I know how disastrous toothaches can be. I find most of the pain associated after going to a dentist however is when the bill is presented. But hey... great time the other day regardless... going out with small craft warnings. I didnt see any other small crafts out there though and dont know why I should have been warned about them. Could never figure out the terminology : But then I look back and this 40-50 footer made it out the inlet about a half mile back.Yay!!! I have company These little craft seem to take heavy weather well don't they Aledal though I have found it difficult to point any where near high into short choppy seas. I will try out the dagger board again though as it appears from recents discussions here that it will make a difference. So how was you cruise? Steal anything cool? [b] I was a complete failure as a pirate this trip around Aledal with absolutely no bootie to speak of. The cruise took us to three ports in the Tongan Islands, three is the Fijian Islands and a stop off in French Noumea. I did manage to keep a wonderful clam shell that was washed up on a deserted tropical beach on Dravuni Island as a memory. There are many beautiful unspoiled islands out there but the larger cities have been buggered up by an influx of foreigners over the last few generations. The Fijians and Tongans were once fierce warriers who used canoes with outriggers not unlike our hobies but with only one outrigger. They ranged in size from singles, doubles up to the size of housboats. Steerage was by way of a swing oar which took four strong natives to manage in any sea. No plastic pins to give trouble there my friend though I am sure they would have loved our hobies. Saw the last remains of Captain Cook's ship the Bounty in the Suva museum which consists of the the gundeons and part of the rudder. History there my friend. Keep in touch as the forum has gone eerily quiet since my departure...Pirate

Author:	Yakass [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:20 pm ]
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Handy to be able to do if you need to pull a large fish aboard

Author:	Cowsgomoo [ Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:26 pm ]
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Aledal wrote: great time the other day regardless... going out with small craft warnings. I didnt see any other small crafts out there though and dont know why I should have been warned about them. Could never figure out the terminology : Ahhh, yes. We get "Sheep Graziers" Alerts issued by the Bureau of Meteorology from time to time. I've never seen any sheep wandering about during these times however. One of the guys I work with recently went to Thailand for a heap of dental work. The cost was far less to go over there, have the work done and have a holiday than get it done locally. He was in pain for months before he went. And yes it's been rather quiet here without you. Welcome back

Author:	skymax [ Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:33 am ]
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I often use the local Boat Ramp because it is easier and shorter than pulling the AI plus Gear up and down the soft-sand beach. No matter how many trailer-boats are lining up for the Ramp there is always room to asssemble everything in the Car Park and hand-wheel the AKA-folded AI into launch position on an unused section of Ramp. I usually launch the AI, hop in and pedal it out of the way of everybody before unfolding the AKA and unfurling the Sail.

Author:	Aledal [ Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:27 am ]
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Welcome back Pirate! Hi all. Especially Cowsgomoo and Yakass for having the best/most stupidest names anyone would ever attach to themselves in cognitoLOL Still having problems quoting accurately.Sorry. Pirate- I have actually left the centerboard out the last several trips and let the drive do the work instead. Calling it a centerboard when its off centered is an oxymoron. In other news... Aledal Corp. has recinded on an earlier promise to revise our handles to a tubular shape. Our engineers found that compromising safety for wind resistance was, in fact,unacceptable. Our new design uses a smaller cross section of the original design offering less wind resistance while(whilst) offering a more comfortable grip. Or... (and you`ll forgive the pun) Its... "sHIP To Be Square"

Author:	Aledal [ Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:12 pm ]
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AAArrrg aag aaag gaag gaag.

Author:	Aledal [ Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:53 am ]
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Author:	Pirate [ Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:25 pm ]
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Well come on Aledal and tell us about your new design. What material are the bars made out of, and can they sustain a full lift?......Pirate