i know im too big to sit on them but wife is a buck fifty(she says) and she makes them sag . Maybe a scale is in order? Dangerous place we are going here.
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| Author: | bosab [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | trampoline alternatives |
Have I missed any posts where someone has created an alternative seating support instead of canvas trampolines. Maybe like the pacific islanders ,some pieces of wood strips or other? I was thinking some sort of roll up woven wood or composite strip material so you could roll it up out of way to fish or paddle and unroll it to sit and sail or even sleep on. |
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| Author: | augaug [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trampoline alternatives |
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but if you're just looking for a solution that rolls up and out of the way easily so that you can fish, the standard Hobie trampolines can do that. |
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| Author: | bosab [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trampoline alternatives |
the problem with the stock tramps from hobie is the fact that they are not well supported. Maybe if you get them a whole lot tighter than I can some load could be applied. Otherwise a person just kind of sits in the water due to the sterceh of the material |
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| Author: | mmiller [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trampoline alternatives |
bosab wrote: the problem with the stock tramps from hobie is the fact that they are not well supported. Maybe if you get them a whole lot tighter than I can some load could be applied. Otherwise a person just kind of sits in the water due to the sterceh of the material I don't understand that... the tramps are pretty easy to get tight. Sure you have the correct ones? The TI and AI tramps are not the same... or maybe it's just the weight. How heavy are you? |
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| Author: | rockcrawler [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trampoline alternatives |
I have found that one way to get the tramp tighter is to let it warm in the sun a few minutes before launching. The warmth of the sun relaxes the material a bit compared to when you first unroll it "cold". One of the first things I do at the launch is unroll the tramps and loosely attach the buckles then work on other things. The very last thing I do before I push off is tighten the tramps down tight. I find this works much better than immediately tightening the buckles and not touching them again until out on the water. When I do this they start sagging a little after launch. By the way, I have black tramps. My method may not work as well with the gray tramps. |
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| Author: | bosab [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trampoline alternatives |
i know im too big to sit on them but wife is a buck fifty(she says) and she makes them sag . Maybe a scale is in order? Dangerous place we are going here.
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| Author: | captain-max [ Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trampoline alternatives |
mmiller wrote: I don't understand that... the tramps are pretty easy to get tight. Sure you have the correct ones? The TI and AI tramps are not the same... or maybe it's just the weight. How heavy are you? Matt, I find the same with the tramps. They are definitely the correct TI tramps, and with a 60kg (~130lb) boy sitting on one, it sags a lot. After he gets off, the tramp is still sagging in the middle where he was sitting, but the tramp can't be tightened any more as the edges have not sagged the same way. It seems to me that the tramp material itself is just way too stretchy. You can get some idea from my Loner Boys video on this forum. Must say that I'm not overly thrilled by the material quality, and am even thinking of trying to stitch a series of webbing straps down the length of the tramps to add a bit of 'stretch resistance', but I know that's going to be a PITA of a job. |
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| Author: | angusisthedevil [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trampoline alternatives |
I also find they sag into the water and to pull them tight does not really work. I am wondering now after reading the above if the heat does cause some of the problem. Also like MAx they don't really seem to fit properly. The buckles seem to line up right in the wrong spots. Think I might make some mods... Also in future it would be really nice if there was a way to attach them and allow the AKA's to fold. That would be nice (or a quick release???) |
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| Author: | mmiller [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trampoline alternatives |
Well... the structure of the akas and amas is not going to allow for a tighter fit. That and the low waterline are going to mean you are already close to the water. Especially if sitting on the low side. Trying to tension up more is likely to damage the aka ends or amas. You would have to have a rigid platform on top of the akas to string a tight tramp... separate from the boat's structure. |
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| Author: | augaug [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trampoline alternatives |
I think part of the "problem" is that the boats sit literally inches out of the water. To me, that's not a problem, just the nature of the boat. They're wet. You could get that tramp as tight as can be, (and I do!) and still get quite wet. I'd focus on clothing that keeps you comfortable instead of trying to fashion some sort of improved tramp that's still going to sit just inches from water, but that's just me. I hear Hobie makes really nice Catamarans. They'll place you further from the water! |
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| Author: | sammy925 [ Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trampoline alternatives |
X2 what AugAug said. Its the nature of the beast. I dress my guest for the craft that it is (too include googles) and always ask them about their water skills and being comfortable soaked before an invite. Once I getem jocked up the're feeling pretty sexy. But I do remember the thread concerning the fit issue with the TI and the back rake of the AKAs which could leave a passenger literally dragging. I'm wondering if that was every resolved. Capt Max? |
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| Author: | captain-max [ Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: trampoline alternatives |
No Sammy, still unresolved. The Hobie dealer asked me to get a decent pic showing the rake of the akas - which I've yet to do - so that they can pursue the issue with Hobie. |
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