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Author:  Julian Patrick [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:28 am ]
Post subject:  Speed of Ai and Ti under Mirage Drive

Awaiting my Ti delivery and a question please:

Has anybody measured the speed of the Ti with...

a) one person pedalling
b) two persons pedalling

Also the same with the Ai (one person of course:-)

Assuming of course no wind or water flow

Thanks!
Julian

Author:  stringy [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Speed of Ai and Ti under Mirage Drive

The TI two up pedaling has a slight advantage over the AI. I find if the wind dies expect a speed of about 6km/h pedaling with the AI and closer to 7 km/h with the TI. Haven't tried the TI solo pedaling.

Author:  Julian Patrick [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Speed of Ai and Ti under Mirage Drive

Thanks stringy.

Does anybody out there use aTi solo? I am planning on using mine solo quite a lot (when it arrives).

Author:  whosyerbob [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Speed of Ai and Ti under Mirage Drive

I agree with stringy on the two-up pedaling of the TI. I've taken ours out solo a number of times and it's a lot slower with one pedaling. Depending on the wind conditions, the sailing can be slower as well because Cindy wasn't there to provide ballast on the upwind trampoline.

Author:  cliffs2yak [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Speed of Ai and Ti under Mirage Drive

JP,

I've been taking my TI out solo in single outrigger mode and been able to easily maintain 3-4mph pedalling speeds from the back seat to keep up with (or even pass) most of my paddle kayak friends while trolling. The main issue that I have is the solo loading and unloading to/from my truck racks. It can get difficult (not impossible) after a long day of fishing; but, luckily there are always friends around to lend a hand.

Loading and unloading has been enough of an issue for me to consider purchasing an Adventure for my short solo training runs. But on runs that I plan to be out all day, the TI rocks...

Aloha,

cliffs2yak

Author:  cliffs2yak [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Speed of Ai and Ti under Mirage Drive

JP,

It feels a bit faster with pedalling in tandem mode maybe about an extra mph/knot. The extra speed doesn't seem to be all that noticeable. Maybe it's because the pedaller (me) in the rear seat tends to slack a little bit knowing there's someone pedalling up front. ;)

cliffs2yak

Author:  Roadrunner [ Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Speed of Ai and Ti under Mirage Drive

Julian Patrick wrote:
Has anybody measured the speed of the Ti ....Also the same with the Ai.... Assuming of course no wind or water flow
There is quite a difference pedaling with the full sailing rig attached vs. pedaling in the kayak mode. Which did you have in mind? 8)

Author:  Julian Patrick [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Speed of Ai and Ti under Mirage Drive

I'm thinking of the situation where one is sailing but the wind drops completely. Then I can work out how far from shore and how long to peddle back etc.

So - with rig attached.

Author:  captain-max [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Speed of Ai and Ti under Mirage Drive

My daughter and I competed in the 3 Rivers Race: 26 kms in 3h 35m = 7.4 km/hr.

However, two very fit people in a TI would slash that time down considerably. So perhaps the question is: what speed can you maintain for 1, 2 or 3 hours? That will vary a lot between individuals.

Author:  Kal-P-Dal [ Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Speed of Ai and Ti under Mirage Drive

captain-max wrote:
My daughter and I competed in the 3 Rivers Race: 26 kms in 3h 35m = 7.4 km/hr.

However, two very fit people in a TI would slash that time down considerably. So perhaps the question is: what speed can you maintain for 1, 2 or 3 hours? That will vary a lot between individuals.


Congratulations!! That was not bad at all! Think what you could have achieved with the TI in kayak mode without your mast and sail. I have managed 25km in 3h 10m 19s, but that was in an Adventure, kayak mode and without mast. I think you could beat me.

26km you can´t do without feeling a bit worn out!

Thomas

Author:  captain-max [ Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Speed of Ai and Ti under Mirage Drive

Kal-P-Dal wrote:
26km you can´t do without feeling a bit worn out!

A bit ??? :lol: I was exhausted, and when I swung my legs over the side of the yak to get out, I collapsed... my legs didn't know how to stand, just jelly!

Must get at least a bit fitter for the next one. 8)

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