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I was just wondering if the frame on the heavy duty cart is the same as the frame on the trax 2 cart, and if it was just the wheels that are the difference anybody know?

also is it possible to interchange the wheels i.e. heavy duty and trax 2

additionally is it possible to fit 30 cm or 42 cm wheeleez wheels to the Hobie carts?

Matt it would be very handy to be able to interchange between the heavy duty wheels and the soft sand wheels to allow for different surface types.

Also I would think that the 30 cm and 42 cm wheels would be less likely to fail as they are built to carry a lot more weight, so would have a bigger 'safety' factor as it were.

NOHUHU - looking forward to it, can you ship one to Australia? now!

I havent bought a cart for the TI because of this issue, so have to launch only from spots where I can drive onto the beach and unload next to the water.

I was using my Trax cart for the AI but recently had another run of punctures which I cant seem to fix so looks like the same fate for the AI only i.e. launch where I have direct beach access

Author:	jms2756 [ Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:18 am ]
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I was just wondering if the frame on the heavy duty cart is the same as the frame on the trax 2 cart, and if it was just the wheels that are the difference anybody know? also is it possible to interchange the wheels i.e. heavy duty and trax 2 additionally is it possible to fit 30 cm or 42 cm wheeleez wheels to the Hobie carts?

Author:	KayakingBob [ Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:38 am ]
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The first question must be which version of the heavy duty Cart. I know of at least 2 versions. Different wheels and different axles.

Author:	NOHUHU [ Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:55 am ]
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Without modification to the carts, I believe the answer to all is no.

Author:	mmiller [ Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:03 am ]
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jms2756 wrote: I was just wondering if the frame on the heavy duty cart is the same as the frame on the trax 2 cart, and if it was just the wheels that are the difference anybody know? also is it possible to interchange the wheels i.e. heavy duty and trax 2 additionally is it possible to fit 30 cm or 42 cm wheeleez wheels to the Hobie carts? Axels are different. The Trax 2 axel is solid and has a groove cut in it to lock the wheels on. You can not interchange the wheels easily. You can use larger wheeleez tires on the frame, but not clear on which ones. We had been looking at the possibility.

Author:	jms2756 [ Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:09 am ]
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Thanks guys for the replys Matt it would be very handy to be able to interchange between the heavy duty wheels and the soft sand wheels to allow for different surface types. Also I would think that the 30 cm and 42 cm wheels would be less likely to fail as they are built to carry a lot more weight, so would have a bigger 'safety' factor as it were.

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Author:	stringy [ Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:14 pm ]
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jms2756 wrote: Matt it would be very handy to be able to interchange between the heavy duty wheels and the soft sand wheels to allow for different surface types. Also I would think that the 30 cm and 42 cm wheels would be less likely to fail as they are built to carry a lot more weight, so would have a bigger 'safety' factor as it were. If you have the Trax1 or Trax2 cart then it is easy to swap wheels. I do it all the time. Look for my post with pics here viewtopic.php?f=69&t=21856&hilit=cart The Trax2 balloon wheels are a great improvement but I agree that a larger balloon wheel would be even better- along with a heavier duty frame.

Author:	NOHUHU [ Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:30 pm ]
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jms2756, The 5" axel rod found on the "twist lock" Hobie cart frames will take a maximum 24cm inflatable PU beach wheel. Last I checked, the hubs on the 30cm wheels were too wide for them. But you are correct, the 30cm wheel is really the way to go. With that in mind, keep an eye out for a new cart thread this week. I am about to show you the mother of all hobie carts. Should be fun.

Author:	jms2756 [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:33 am ]
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NOHUHU - looking forward to it, can you ship one to Australia? now! I havent bought a cart for the TI because of this issue, so have to launch only from spots where I can drive onto the beach and unload next to the water. I was using my Trax cart for the AI but recently had another run of punctures which I cant seem to fix so looks like the same fate for the AI only i.e. launch where I have direct beach access

Author:	mickeymouse [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:26 am ]
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jms2756 wrote: NOHUHU - looking forward to it, can you ship one to Australia? now! I havent bought a cart for the TI because of this issue, so have to launch only from spots where I can drive onto the beach and unload next to the water. I was using my Trax cart for the AI but recently had another run of punctures which I cant seem to fix so looks like the same fate for the AI only i.e. launch where I have direct beach access I think I know of a suitable alternative - available here in Oz. Will find &post info in the morning.

Author:	mickeymouse [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:45 pm ]
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This is an aftermarket cart made by Vosscon Engineering. It’s a heavier guage than the Hobie cart and is made from 316 stainless steel. http://www.vossconengineering.com.au/

Author:	NOHUHU [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:15 pm ]
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Man, that thing sits HIGH! Which is mostly a good thing. Solid materials. But I would not hit the curbs too hard with it, there will be increased leverage on the scupper areas.

Author:	jms2756 [ Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:30 pm ]
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mickeymouse - looks interesting but only one type of wheels, alright for the hard stuff but no good for the soft sand here in WA, although if it could be altered to take the wheeleez wheels there is enough clearance for the bigger ones!

Author:	nicnrob [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:55 am ]
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I'm a new TI owner we're having a great time sailing and fishing. The only problem I am having, is trying to insert the heavy duty cart into the scupper holes when retrieving the TI from the water. This is mainly due to how well the cart floats! I am not able to insert the cart into the middle set of scupper holes when in the water as I just can't line up the two poles with the holes & keep the cart from floating away. Any ideas on how the more seasoned guys accomplish this task?

Author:	TalonDJ [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:54 pm ]
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Some said on other threads that they have deflated the tires and put some water or sand inside them then filled them with air again. I don't have the big sand tires so I have not tried that myself.

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Author:	nicnrob [ Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:54 am ]
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Thanks TalonDJ. I have a new Heavy duty cart which has been beefed up by my local Hobie dealer. The tyres are filled with a polyurethane foam so I don't have to worry about punctures. I have thought of a couple of solutions, eg. a length of plastic tube over the end of the legs of the cart to help guide them in. Unless someone already has a great solution, I'll experiment & post the results.