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Author:  JollyGreen [ Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:38 pm ]
Post subject:  TI Weight Clarifications
So I've seen an estimate for hull weight of 90lbs for the TI, but also 120lbs from roadrunner. I guess 120lbs is with the aka mounts, dagger board and all rigging attached?

I'm trying to figure out how much weight actually has to go on the roof of a car. If I have a TI that's setup and ready to sail, and I take the amas, akas, mast/sail, and mirage drives off, what's the weight of the hull?

Each ama weighs 22lbs?

If I'm guessing correctly, the hull, amas and mast have to go on the roof for a total of 120lbs + 22lbs*2 + 12lbs?

:mrgreen:
Author:  KayakingBob [ Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TI Weight Clarifications
90lbs is wishful thinking! :)

I would guess 120-125 including the little things left on like seat and leashes. All together assembled, is closer to 200lbs.
Author:  TxYackMan [ Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TI Weight Clarifications
Hull weight : 89 lbs
Rigged Weight : 192 lbs

It's heavy!

http://www.hobiecat.com/kayaks/mirage/tandem-island/
Author:  KayakingBob [ Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TI Weight Clarifications
TxYackMan wrote:
Hull weight : 89 lbs
Rigged Weight : 192 lbs

It's heavy!

http://www.hobiecat.com/kayaks/mirage/tandem-island/

That 89# doesn't include little things like hatches, bungees, hardware, aka xbars, mast cup, lines, etc. etc. etc. :lol:
Author:  TxYackMan [ Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:16 pm ]
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Agree. Think that is just the boat itself. Rigged weight sounds about right though. Course that does not include your gear and such.
Author:  JollyGreen [ Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:20 pm ]
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hehe, thanks

So, I have a 96 honda accord wagon, 165lbs max roof rack weight. I was thinking about getting a hitch and then using the T-bar to create a third resting spot. Would this distribute the 200lbs enough? I imagine it will be hard to get the weight distributed evenly over 3 roof bars. Any ideas?

http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hitch/H ... 1996303940
Author:  TxYackMan [ Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: TI Weight Clarifications
Not sure. Perhaps it will work. I considered topping my TI when I first bought but now love having a trailer.

There are lots of folks that do rack it - so with the third bar seems like it would be good.
Author:  Jbernier [ Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:23 am ]
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Check out this guy's Mini Cooper set-up. He used the goal post idea... no reports back from him as to how it worked, but usually, no news is good news :)

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Author:  cliffs2yak [ Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TI Weight Clarifications
Jolly,

Been racking my TI and it's seems heavier than 100lbs. Will know for sure after someone tries to actually scale it... hmmm

My TI sits on three bars on my truck rack and seems to be holding up well without too much of my TI sticking out and flexing while driving through bumpy roads. Racheting straps are a good idea to ensure your TI stays on the bar when you hit a bump.

Also, been pulling my TI up a rocky shoreline and been using a HD cart in the middle scuppers. But two seems to be the way to go if you plan to wheel you TI quite a ways.

shaka,

c2y
Author:  Tiki Tack [ Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TI Weight Clarifications
Then there was the "ooopppss" I did last time after a sail and I was tired and trying to get everything loaded up so I could go home. I was wondering why it was so hard to get it on the roof and chalked it up to being tired. Then I got home and realized that I left the anchor and chain inside on accident. DOH!
Author:  KayakingBob [ Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TI Weight Clarifications
I have great respect for TI sailors that car-top (truck-top?) their boats. I did it a few times before my trailer was built and registered and it was not fun, especially after a long sail, even with help. I can pop AI's up on my truck by myself all day long, but I'd feel that TI loading for a few days afterword. :wink:
Author:  cliffs2yak [ Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TI Weight Clarifications
Reconlon,

I have to agree, 100lbs + 18' of hull can make things very difficult. I can manage on my own; but, always appreciate (and accept) the offer to help lift my TI's hull onto my truck rack. Even at 6', 220lbs with some weight lifting (and poi), it can get tough lifting it over my shoulders. However, I seem to be getting better at it and starting to not mind it so much.

I would still recommend a trailer if your launch allows.

shaka,

c2y
Author:  TxYackMan [ Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TI Weight Clarifications
At first I did not want the trailer and considered topping it. Glad I went with trailer - launching and loading is so quick with a trailer. I have wheels if I cannot get to a ramp. Even in that case, having the trailer is nice as all I have to do is lift it up a couple inches and push it onto the trailer. Oh, the biggest thing is being able to launch by myself w/o much effort. But also understand there might be other considerations of not using a trailer. Hope you can figure out a solution and get out there and do some sailing.
Author:  JollyGreen [ Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: TI Weight Clarifications
Thanks for all the help and suggestions. I think I'm going to hold off for now, I like the AI and can get it around pretty easily. I could probably manage the TI car topping with the T-bar but it would be a pain and probably keep me from going out as much. The trailer would be ideal, but I rent, so it would be difficult to get space to store a trailer, also the cost of a trailer plus a TI is just too much for me. Hopefully I can work something out in the future, it looks too fun! :D
Author:  cliffs2yak [ Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: TI Weight Clarifications
Jolly,

If I had to choose between having a trailer v.s. having a TI... the TI ended up winning ;)

It'll take some persistence in the beginning until you can refine how you transport and setup your TI without a trailer. I'm getting use to transporting without a trailer but my heavy duty cart is taking a beating. Especially the axle when it occassionally hits a high rock and so I'm anticipating that it'll break. For now, an extra HD cart will have to do as backup and to offload some of the weight while carting; but, I'm designing a rigid dolly that I can convert as a T bar will post shortly.

Without a trailer, it's taking me between 1-1.5 hours to unload and setup (includes all fishing gear). Took almost twice as long at first. 1.5 hr is bit much for those quick 2 - 3 hour touring runs; but reasonable for those long all day runs.

shaka,

c2y
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