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Author:  cooldudecaptain [ Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Tie off point for furling line

Watched a you tube video (sales type) for a TI and the trailer. With the sail was unfurled, the furling line appeared to terminate somehow on the main sheet about 3 to 4 feet from from the clew. Obviously it wasn't attached directly to the mainsheet. but I could not determine just how it was attached. Perhaps a type of tag line ?

Result: sitting up front, to furl the sail he reached overhead and grabbed the furling line which was draped loosely and then hauled in the sail. Maybe he attached the furling line to the main sheet, after the sail was fully open. I could not see enough details on the video.

Has anyone seen something like this? I can see some "pros", but also "cons". Just curious if this might be another alternative to attaching the furling line to the main sheet, which I currently do.

bill

Author:  KayakingBob [ Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tie off point for furling line

I tie a permanent small loop at the end(s) of the sheet-line, both to tie the reefing line to, and to stop it from ever slipping through the cleat. When I setup my Islands, I tie the reefing line to the sheet-line loop.

Author:  tonystott [ Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tie off point for furling line

I agree Bob, that is sooo logical, as when you grab one, the other line is not far away. :D :D

Author:  TI_Tom [ Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tie off point for furling line

+1 I just tie the end of the furling line to the mainsheet line.

Author:  Sound Side [ Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tie off point for furling line

I agree, never thought it would be that simple of a solution but tie them together and it works everytime for me. Plus I don't have to put one down to find the other. Color code rope helps though so I know which way to pull. :lol:

Author:  Android77 [ Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tie off point for furling line

I did not tie them together at first and needed to furl sail in windy conditions once and the shutting line went over the side and got hung up on the rudder. Took me a little bit to figure out I had to turn into wind lift rudder and tie the lines together. I love this forum it helps the learning curve.


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Author:  cooldudecaptain [ Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tie off point for furling line

You all missed the point of the query.................

"might be another alternative TO ATTACHING THE FURLING LINE TO THE MAIN SHEET,] WHICH I CURRENTLY DO"

shesh............

bill

Author:  tonystott [ Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tie off point for furling line

cooldudecaptain wrote:
You all missed the point of the query.................

"might be another alternative TO ATTACHING THE FURLING LINE TO THE MAIN SHEET,] WHICH I CURRENTLY DO"

shesh............

bill

Have you thought that nobody could make any sense whatsoever in the strange arrangement, so had nothing constructive to contribute, other than to emphasis that tying the two lines together is an extremely popular and effective solution. I don't think anyone missed the point...

Maybe you can post a link to the Youtube video?

Author:  Jbernier [ Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tie off point for furling line

I have seen many people make the mistake of never untying the knot that is done at the factory for shipping. This causes the end of the main sheet to be wrapped up in the mainsheet system that is connected to the sail - making the bitter ends of the sheets go up and hit the sailors in the head - its a honest mistake, even dealers have made the same error.

Author:  Haliboo [ Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:44 am ]
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Am I the only one who can't visualise either cloudcapn's version or JB's?? :|

Author:  cooldudecaptain [ Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tie off point for furling line



At the 1:40 minute mark is a brief demonstration of the mystery furling / unfurling arrangement on a Tandem Island.

I'd appreciate anyone's input.

thanx,
bill

Author:  TI_Tom [ Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tie off point for furling line

To me it looks like they tied the furling line to the sheet line between the sail clew and rear block. Doesn't make sense to me.

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Author:  KayakingBob [ Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tie off point for furling line

Yep! They did not untie the lines as shipped from the factory.

Author:  tonystott [ Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tie off point for furling line

Sadly, that is an example of sales people rather than sails people. Nobody who has actually sailed an Island would accept that strange placement as normal, rather than something done for shipping.

Author:  Yakass [ Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tie off point for furling line

Appears to me that guy has no idea what he's doing.

Anyway, unlike others here, I'm not a fan of connecting the mainsheet to the furling line (despite persisting with it for some time), primarily because I have seen this create a lassoo that I've seen fish get tangled up in (not a good thing, especially when they have a big lure hanging out their mouth). As an alternative, I run the furling line to the portside of the boat, and just leave the line sitting on the portside tramp (and this method is gaining traction with Isl anglers Aus). Its always easily accessible with the left hand, mainsheet controlled with the right. For me its much tidier than having a bunch of rope hanging around the miragedrive well area, which I find is the typical result of connecting the lines.

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