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Author: | NOHUHU [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Capsizing - The Oracle Team USA way. |
Not quite the drama and damage this time on the Americas Cup 45-footer foiling cats, but amazing to watch. Great story here about how fast things can go south, when you're gybing on foils.. and how quickly the recovery went. Lucky for them, they were all able to live and laugh about it later. And lucky for us, GoPros were everywhere. |
Author: | tonystott [ Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Capsizing - The Oracle Team USA way. |
NOHUHU wrote: Not quite the drama and damage this time on the Americas Cup 45-footer foiling cats, but amazing to watch. Great story here about how fast things can go south, when you're gybing on foils.. and how quickly the recovery went. Lucky for them, they were all able to live and laugh about it later. And lucky for us, GoPros were everywhere. That tear in the deck at 2:13 looks pretty expensive though... |
Author: | NOHUHU [ Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:18 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Capsizing - The Oracle Team USA way. |
Ripped them a new one, for sure. Was it bad technique or bad design? I'm surprised the righting lines were so thin. The ones on our cat are bigger. Terrific video though. |
Author: | BobAgain [ Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Capsizing - The Oracle Team USA way. |
wow. I continue to be amazed by the product designs vs a generation ago. That rip did show just how fragile the boats are..thanks for the post. |
Author: | fusioneng [ Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:21 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Capsizing - The Oracle Team USA way. |
All the guys with the new Hobie spinnaker have something like this video to look forward to if they are not careful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpBkJp4cwrI I have a similar spinnaker on my TI (not the Hobie spinnaker, but very similar), and have pitchpoled several times now. The problem only comes up if your in rough chop in pretty high winds (FYI...likely higher than Hobie recommends) or going over big boat wakes. In my case I typically hit the first wave, go over the second, then under the third, the boat pitchpoles just like the video above. You go from like 20 to zero in 1-2 seconds flat, in my case once I snapped my rear stay line and the spinnaker laid out on the water in front of me, and I ran over it (adding to the humiliation). Carry extra AKA sheer pins, because they usually get taken out when the AMA's dive. Actually the AKA sheer bolts are speed related, if your barreling along at 15 plus, and you hit a big wave wrong, your AKA sheer bolts break pretty much every time (just an FYI for when you guys start moving a little faster....). It's not likely that the boat will actually flip, the bow just dives about 4 ft, and you come to a quick stop. Another condition that comes up often is on a 90 deg reach with all that sail out in really gusty conditions (again likely not recommended by Hobie). What happens to me is the gust hits, and I can't release things fast enough, and the AMA dives underwater. If your moving pretty fast (over 12 mph), this immediately sheers the AKA sheer bolt. If your AMA folds in your going to capsize thats when that safety line comes in handy (all just FYI). Other than that Have fun everyone, your gonna love the spinnaker kit. FE |
Author: | AntonLargiader [ Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Capsizing - The Oracle Team USA way. |
NOHUHU wrote: Is that what I think it is at 2:15? The righting line tearing through the CF? |
Author: | NOHUHU [ Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Capsizing - The Oracle Team USA way. |
Yes Sir. A carbon-fiberectomy. ![]() |
Author: | TI_Tom [ Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Capsizing - The Oracle Team USA way. |
I winced when I saw that too. Sent from my SPH-L720T using Tapatalk |
Author: | NOHUHU [ Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Capsizing - The Oracle Team USA way. |
https://americascup-images.s3.amazonaws.com/files/m1375_lvacws-ny-htw-v031116-vb.pdf They're coming to NYC in May! |
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