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| Author: | jhawkman [ Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | dry suits, wet suits, what to wear? |
I'm a newbie in Northern California (Napa) with a new 2016 Tandem Island that I have yet to take out. Have been putzing with building and modifying a trailer, looking at all the great ideas on the forum and dreaming. But I'd like to buy things to wear for myself and my wife when we go out on the SF bay, Tomales Bay, etc. and could use some suggestions. One piece dry suit? Waterproof shell and pants? The price range is pretty broad and your experience would be very helpful. What should I look at? And thanks for any suggestions. |
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| Author: | touayang84 [ Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: dry suits, wet suits, what to wear? |
Following, in the same boat Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | vetgam [ Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: dry suits, wet suits, what to wear? |
Here are the pants and top I use. https://www.rei.com/product/898408/nrs-endurance-paddling-pants-mens?CAWELAID=120217890002303463&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=16033104040&CATCI=pla-70917894640&cm_mmc=PLA_Google|404_8197|8984080001|none|f9ae0404-a472-44df-9f7c-bc0e1f744797|pla-70917894640&lsft=cm_mmc:PLA_Google_LIA|404_8197|8984080001|none|f9ae0404-a472-44df-9f7c-bc0e1f744797|pla-70917894640&gclid=Cj0KEQiA0L_FBRDMmaCTw5nxm-ABEiQABn-VqRbP17gVIeXePDjDUP_cUdkMiYoljQ_56RFjYrDzosgaAp2e8P8HAQ https://www.rei.com/product/898357/nrs-endurance-paddling-jacket-mens I sail for long periods and need to take a leak from time to time. The reasonably priced one piece suits all seem to be missing that critical opening. I will post an interesting twist on the trailer when I get home. |
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| Author: | jhawkman [ Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: dry suits, wet suits, what to wear? |
Excellent, thanks for the tips! A lot less expensive than the Kokatat and Stohlquist one piece suits. Not sure I understand the fundamental difference between each type of suit, the pros and cons, although the one piece lets you look like Captain Kirk! http://www.outdoorplay.com/Stohlquist-E ... tegory=175 http://www.outdoorplay.com/Kokatat-Mens ... k-Dry-Suit what do you put on your feet? do you use gloves in cold water? thanks again for any tips. |
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| Author: | jhawkman [ Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: dry suits, wet suits, what to wear? |
Just spent some quality time with the people at Outdoorplay who explained the differences. Your separates approach is the right one for me. Thanks! |
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| Author: | touayang84 [ Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: dry suits, wet suits, what to wear? |
Is there any brand you would recommend over another? Any brand I should stay away from? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | vetgam [ Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: dry suits, wet suits, what to wear? |
For Gloves- 70 degrees temp and up http://www.austinkayak.com/products/16799/Buff-Pro-Series-Angler-III-Gloves.html 61-70 degrees (I treat the leather portion with mink oil) It will leach some water in through the suede leather portion but so slowly that your body warms the water and you don't feel the cold. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IHN569W/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 60 degrees or less (Important to buy the version with bent fingers- these do not let any water in but they can be hot after a while) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0029YE60A/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 For shoes, I have to laugh. For years I tried all the different neoprene kayaking boots that were out there. What did I settle on? Crocs. The neoprene boots are hard to get on and of especially when wet, and your feet don't breath. Crocs work great if you can get over the looks of them. Neoprene sock like these, make it easier to get in and out of any footwear. http://www.austinkayak.com/products/8027/Level-Six-Fusion-Neoprene-Sock.html |
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| Author: | jhawkman [ Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: dry suits, wet suits, what to wear? |
This is really great info, thanks everyone. I was thinking I could just use a good waterproof sailing jacket or shell such as: https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-mar ... _-MB-_-PDP but realized the PFD has to fit over it, so a bulky jacket won't work (will it?) If you have the patience, do you have a recommendation for a touring PFD that works well on the Vantage seat (assume a thin mesh back) ? I see Hobie, Stohlquist, Kokatat? I have a couple of the West Marine inshore inflatable PFD's and I wonder if they are adequate; https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-mar ... ecordNum=1 |
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| Author: | vetgam [ Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: dry suits, wet suits, what to wear? |
You will be very comfortable with that inshore jacket. They are tricky to figure out where to hang a VHF radio, PLB and other items sa that they don't interfere with inflation though. Still, the can work. |
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| Author: | Chekika [ Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: dry suits, wet suits, what to wear? |
I used to use an inflatable PFD, but realized, since I sail alone at times, if I were unconscious, I couldn't inflate my PFD. For that reason, I wear a regular PFD, specifically, the NRS cVest https://www.rei.com/product/832799/nrs-cvest-pfd Good pockets, lots of places to hang things. I also wear heavy neoprene boots. There are oyster bars here in SFL and coral and sea shells on shore. I like a serious boot to walk across these things, e.g., http://www.outdoorplay.com/NRS-Work-Boot-Kayaking-Booties?gclid=Cj0KEQiA88TFBRDYrOPKuvfY2pIBEiQA97Z8MTldm9HEGMXigHniuF46uPkVbYcFSOkPzbcB13SkT-YaAokk8P8HAQ Keith |
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| Author: | jhawkman [ Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: dry suits, wet suits, what to wear? |
Thanks for all the great tips! I've never contributed to a forum before and feel like I've joined a big family. Another benefit of Hobie. |
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| Author: | touayang84 [ Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: dry suits, wet suits, what to wear? |
I'm trying to find a wet suit for the old lady, is rip curl wetsuits any good? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Sardinian Islander [ Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: dry suits, wet suits, what to wear? |
these are the trousers i use. http://www.ozonekayak.com/accessori/gia ... ard-pants/ a feature i would not renouce is the waterproof socks that are part of the trousers (not separate). it makes a big difference cause before with neoprene socks i always had wet feet. in the island the feet are always in the water. having the separate jacket instead give u the freedom to change your top depending on the weather and sea conditions. i sail in the mediterranean. if i was in UK or Norway of course i should go fo a much heavier drysuit |
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| Author: | napan [ Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: dry suits, wet suits, what to wear? |
Hi Jhawk, I would recommend checking locally and see what others are wearing. As you can see, many members are in the Gulf States and their Summer water temps are in the mid 80's, while our averages our mid to high 50's, so massive difference in survival wear. Seems like 1 or 2 kayak fatalities yearly (hypothermia) I believe there are 3 hobie island clubs in the Bay Area (2 North, 1 East) as well as NCKA (http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com) I realize you may not fish, but most of them dress for immersion. Many dive and lean towards wetsuits, others swear by drysuits. As for what I'm wearing, I lust longingly at TI's on here for the moment, but will get a drysuit when the time comes for fishing and perhaps duck hunting. I've been told, the way to go with kids is used wetsuits due to outgrowing them so fast. hope this helps |
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