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Author:  janlaw [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:40 am ]
Post subject:  new AI-08 mounting
Got a new AI-08 :D Have to mount it myself :)

The pices dont fit :(

The instruction followed dont show or explain anything of this.

The rear crossbar dimension dont match the prepared hole with 10 mm

se pic
http://w1.312.telia.com/~u31248095/rear%20crossbar.JPG


and what about the mastcup, there is two hole

se pic
http://w1.312.telia.com/~u31248095/mastcupx.jpg

should they attatch the front crossbars downside?
there is no prepared hole there (only one in the centre)

se pic
http://w1.312.telia.com/~u31248095/front%20crossbar.JPG

have i got vrong parts?
Author:  Ranger1 [ Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:05 am ]
Post subject:  Crossbars
Mine were a hair off in one direction vs. another.
Switched the crossbar around and did it on a warm day when the
boat warmed up. There could be a temp issue. That said I'd contact Hobie on the measurements directly and see what they say.

On the masthead two holes I assume that since it was not mentioned in the instructions that it was something done during manufacturing for a reason. If you find out let us know. I never made any connection to the cross bar and it works fine.
Author:  janlaw [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:54 pm ]
Post subject: 
here a pic how I fix the problem with the missfitting crossbar

http://w1.312.telia.com/~u31248095/expand.JPG

I covered the AI with black plastick and waited for the sun to warm the polythylen up. Hobie said I could used hot water . I used a screwexpand thing I found in the garage to press it out and suddenly the crossbar where in place.

I am sailing, I am sailing!
Author:  mmiller [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:37 pm ]
Post subject: 
Glad you got it going!

The two tabs on the mast cup were designed for a different crossbar that has not yet gone into production. You disregard them.
Author:  Yakaholic [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:13 pm ]
Post subject: 
mmiller wrote:
Glad you got it going!

The two tabs on the mast cup were designed for a different crossbar that has not yet gone into production. You disregard them.


:o Are we talking about a different crossbar for a new type of craft? As in an Island-tandem? :wink: :wink:

Or is Hobie, in its pursuit of ever better craft, just making an even better Island.

C'mon Matt - spill the beans! :lol:

I will put off spending money on a small daysailer for 2 if I know a Island-like tandem craft for 2 was available for this fall. 8)

Wife and I love our 2 '07 Islands we got in Oct. '06 - going strong - but at times wish for a single boat 2 person setup.


Yakaholic
Author:  stringy [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:59 pm ]
Post subject: 
That was my first thought as well when I read Matt's post! :wink:
Author:  KayakingBob [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:03 pm ]
Post subject: 
I'm ready to add a tandem or a heaver-duty racing AI.
Come on Matt, WE won't tell. :D

Kayaking Bob
Author:  antbric [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:36 pm ]
Post subject: 
yes, yes!!! racing trimaran!!! all in favor say "aye", all opposed--go away!!
just kiddin'. a tandem would be alright but passengers are what my Wave is good for.
Author:  Jim_L [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:31 am ]
Post subject: 
Tandem AI? Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please!

I'd have to redesign my kayak hoist to the garage ceiling, again (will three boats fit up there?), but it'll be worth it!
Author:  Yakaholic [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:30 pm ]
Post subject: 
From another thread:

mmiller wrote:
I do not expect any changes to the 2009 Adventure Island.

All recent changes were included with the 2008.



:) So then what about that different crossbar that has not yet gone into production? If it is NOT for the '09 Island.

Then... :?:

Ya, I'm feeling it - a NEW Hobie in the works. :P
Hobie Island Tandem Sport


codename HITS

:lol: :lol:
Author:  Tom Ray [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:48 pm ]
Post subject: 
It's a long way from a couple of little tabs to a Tandem Trisland, yakaholic. The subject has come up several times here, and I hope Hobie develops a tandem. Didn't someone say the length would be a production problem, and they would need a longer mold oven or something?

The wife and I had a great sail across the harbor and back yesterday afternoon. :D Having two boats is a lot of fun, but a tandem would be better for some people.
Author:  Yakaholic [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:42 am ]
Post subject: 
Ya, a couple of tabs do not make a tandem.

Now to the tea leaves.

Hobie developed a whole new mast, mast cup and mast hold down clip after only 1 year of the original Island. We know the new mast cup has 2 tabs and we know those are supposed to attach to new "different" crossbar which is going to be put into production. Matt already said there will be no changes in the '09 Island, so that rules out the Island.

Soo... Why put into production a different crossbar? Unless it was for a new boat.?

Lets approach this a different way. What do additional anchor points of the mast cup to a new crossbar accomplish? If you tie the mast cup to the crossbar you get a much stronger mast support. Why make it stronger? - For a bigger sail and/or a taller mast. The current mast & sail for the Island seems to be about right, but a tandem would sure need a bigger sail or mast.

Since Matt has been quiet and not added any more info to this thread, may be more confirmation that I might possible be right.

If lightning does strike twice and Hobie once again creates a whole new boat like a tandem trimaran I will have no hesitation to be an early adopter.
Author:  denizen [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:48 am ]
Post subject:  an act of tandem kindness
Quote:
If lightning does strike twice and Hobie once again creates a whole new boat like a tandem trimaran......


For fishing, stealth and manueverability, one person in the cockpit of a kayak seems a good fit.

For sailing, to maximize fun, a cockpit for two would be a great fit.

People have been asking about this tandem idea since right after the first AI was released.
One thing we have seen is that Hobie listens.
We have also seen that, except for tiny obscure hints, Hobie keeps a lid on things until they are ready to release a product.
Bigger sail and two mirage drives, now that'll be fun!!!!!
a tandem act of kindness, a senseless act of beauty....Hobie Style

It's probably just a matter of- When and What Price?
Author:  Phil [ Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:14 pm ]
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Don't ask me where I heard it but you might want to think "dual" as in offset mirage drives side by side rather than tandem. Boat won't get a lot longer.
Author:  The Dog [ Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:30 pm ]
Post subject: 
You guys all know Matt well enough that he's not going to spill the beans before they're done cooking. After all, he hasn't told you about the....

Whoops. That's a secret too. :lol:

Brian C
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