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Author: | mylesfromnowhere [ Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Hoist pulley system for 100 lb kayak in low garage ceiling |
I have a mirage oasis (93 lbs plus) that I would like to suspend from the ceiling of my garage for regular and overwinter storage but the ceiling is only 9 feet high, and I would like to be able to slide my SUV underneath. I want a rope and strap pulley system (not electrical) and I have some thoughts (below) but would like advice. 1. To minimize height of system, and avoid denting the hull, it seems like storage keel up is the way to go (a triangle is shorter than a diamond shape for the sling, and the rails are firmer than the hull) but if two 2" straps are used, will the straps squeeze and dent the outsides of the hull as it passes under the rails and over the sides of the hull to the point where the straps meet over the kayak and attach to the hoist system? 2. Would it be better to attach the hoist straps or rope to the ends of two carpet-padded 2x4s on which the rails would sit, so that the straps barely touch the sides of the hull? With this approach, would the kayak tend to tip over as it is being raised or lowered? Could this be mitigated by using inverted y-shaped dual hooks that are spread apart at the point where the straps or ropes attach to the hoist?. 3. Can anyone recommend a hoist/pulley system (again, non-electric) that would fit the bill, with say a capacity of at least 150 lbs or more for safety? 4. Can these hoists lower the kayak all the way to the floor if the ropes are long enough? Should a pulley be attached to each of the two points where the straps under the hull come together, or would it be just as useful to have a single four-wheel pulley that the hauling rope goes through to reduce lifting load? Using two pulleys would, I think, make it harder to get the kayak closer to the ceiling. Other thoughts or suggestions (or photos) very much appreciated. |
Author: | John_h [ Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hoist pulley system for 100 lb kayak in low garage ceili |
I have one of these http://www.hoister.com/productdetail.as ... &taxid=648 |
Author: | mmiller [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:01 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hoist pulley system for 100 lb kayak in low garage ceili |
I made one for mine. Works slick. I replaced the dowels with aluminum tube. Really quick to hoist up or drop onto the truck. mmiller wrote: I (like most of us) have two primary issues related to kayak storage. One... limited space. Two... ease of the storage and use of the kayak.
I have made a kayak hoist before and was happy with the use, but it did require carrying the kayak into my garage, setting on saw horses and only with the garage door shut, could I hoist. It was a bit time consuming, but clean out-of-the-way storage. I moved to a new place, so I re-configured my hoist system and it's simply AWESOME!! (I think ![]() I can drive into the new garage with the boat on the roof, so I wanted to be able to hoist right onto and off the roof rack. My boat length, garage and vehicle height are ideal, so may not work for all. But the concept would work for many applications. This hoist keeps the boat inverted and places the carrying loads on the cockpit side rails just as though on the truck roof rack. This is ideal. The Hoist: Two overhead pulleys are attached to heavy duty lag hooks threaded into joists. It's a double line system that has two 3:1 purchase blocks below. It has lines passed through scuppers and a pair of dowel cross members (these could be stronger or be of another material), but this works for my Maui. The hoist lines feed to the wall and then down to a pair of cam cleats. I also tie this off for security. (Drawing / details at the bottom of the post) ![]() ![]() I pull the line through the scuppers (The tail of line hanging down allows me to easily pass the line down through the scuppers and then pull the loops through) and then pass the cross members through the loops. I have also added two "humps" of tape to mark and keep the dowel centered. No knots to tie... just two cross members passed through the loops. ![]() I then simply hoist the kayak up off the roof rack. The load is balanced and stable. The dowels are what I had on hand and could be stronger, but they worked for proof of concept. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The double line system is easier to rig and allows you to pull the lines down when setting up to hoist and adjust height independent of the opposite end while hoisting. I had these triple blocks, but note that doubles there is all that is needed. ![]() Boats without single / centered scuppers aft might have to use a beam setup to split the line to both (cart) scuppers. |
Author: | Peakwa24 [ Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:48 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Hoist pulley system for 100 lb kayak in low garage ceili |
I use the 200lb version of the Harkin Hoister. one for each PA14. a bit of a bear to install (Properly) but it works GREAT! I use a seconday Long-Term strap to take the weight of the Lift system for longer storage times. [img]C:\Users\myersde\Desktop\IMG_0445.JPG[/img] |
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