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Author:  ecduzitgood [ Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Cart for the pro angler
I have the trax2 and really wasn't happy with the performance in very soft sand so I am going to make my own. I purchased an old wheel chair that is stainless steel and has roleez wheels. I am still trying to decide how I want to do it. Has anyone made a cart themselves?
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Here you can see the difference in tire sizes, the gray tire is from the trax2Image
The frame was riveted together and I haven't cut anything YET......any suggestions? The pipes size is 7/8 for the frame and 1" for the rear axle which has pins that can be removed to seperate the axle from the upper frame. I have considerred making a cart but do not want to have to return to the vehicle leaving my PA and all the gear unattended, I am even considering taking the cart out with me and leaving it floating and anchored near my launch point out where it cannot be stolen unless they have a boat.
Author:  Ricky [ Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cart for the pro angler
I've made many kayak carts, mostly from PVC, reinforced with metal pipes. Making a frame is the easy part. The problem will be removing the cart or inserting it when the kayak is on the water. Those tires hold a lot more air, so they will be way more bouyant. I'd first tie the 2 wheels together and see how hard it would be to hold them underwater for at least 10 - 20 seconds, which is how long it would probably take to get the cart inserted in the scupper holes. Let me know if you have any questions.
Author:  ecduzitgood [ Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cart for the pro angler
Ricky wrote:
I've made many kayak carts, mostly from PVC, reinforced with metal pipes. Making a frame is the easy part. The problem will be removing the cart or inserting it when the kayak is on the water. Those tires hold a lot more air, so they will be way more bouyant. I'd first tie the 2 wheels together and see how hard it would be to hold them underwater for at least 10 - 20 seconds, which is how long it would probably take to get the cart inserted in the scupper holes. Let me know if you have any questions.


I never tried installing the cart in the water, I usually pull the pro angler up enough on shore and then tip it on it's side to insert the cart. I would like to make the cart so I can keep it with me when I launch but the weight of the larger wheels and stainless axle is making me rethink about how to do it. I have even considered getting a longer axel so I could utilize the larger wheels like an outrigger for added stability, I just can't make up my mind.

Am I the only person who feels the trax2 is a little undersized for the pro angler? 100 yards in very soft sand was more difficult than I wanted it to be.
Author:  Ricky [ Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cart for the pro angler
A longer axle most likely will bend with the weight. If you mount/dismount the cart out of the water, then you should be able to make a regular frame with the materials you have. You may need to get a threaded rod and a couple of nuts to make an axle (less than $10 at home depot). I'm looking at your post from my phone so I can't see much detail of your chair, but I'll take a closer look at your photos in my computer tomorrow and give you better suggestions of what you can do.
Author:  ecduzitgood [ Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cart for the pro angler
Ricky wrote:
A longer axle most likely will bend with the weight. If you mount/dismount the cart out of the water, then you should be able to make a regular frame with the materials you have. You may need to get a threaded rod and a couple of nuts to make an axle (less than $10 at home depot). I'm looking at your post from my phone so I can't see much detail of your chair, but I'll take a closer look at your photos in my computer tomorrow and give you better suggestions of what you can do.

The exsisting SS one inch axle can support all of my weight with ease now; I have the PA put away for the winter but I would think a longer ss pipe would be strong enough, I just don't know if the outrigger idea is a good one. I suppose I could just make it similar to the trax2 and store it on board with me. I don't know if my homemade livewell would allow storing the cart on board.
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Author:  J0HN [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cart for the pro angler
that wheel chair retails for over $4000. I would restore it and try sell it. Then pay a machine shop to custom build you a cart.
http://www.dailycareinc.com/All_Terrain_p/BEACH-Natural_Access.htm
Author:  ecduzitgood [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cart for the pro angler
J0HN wrote:
that wheel chair retails for over $4000. I would restore it and try sell it. Then pay a machine shop to custom build you a cart.
http://www.dailycareinc.com/All_Terrain_p/BEACH-Natural_Access.htm

I thought about that but the front castors both have a slow leak and for a cart I figured I'd just stick a ss wire in to seal the valve if I use the small front wheels at all. It also has a chunk missing out of one rear rim which once again didn't bother me for a kayak cart but made me think it might get expensive to restore. I have drilled out several rivets and removed the rubber handle grips and the fabric is faded, the clips need to be replaced and I don't have a lot of money so restoring it might be difficult for me, I will look into the parts cost because I really would like to have a perfect cart for the PA and selling this might be my best route....got some thinking to do. Thanks for the heads up and I would feel better if someone who needs a beach wheel chair had a chance at getting this one cheap.
Author:  Thinwater skinner [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cart for the pro angler
J0HN wrote:
that wheel chair retails for over $4000. I would restore it and try sell it. Then pay a machine shop to custom build you a cart.
http://www.dailycareinc.com/All_Terrain_p/BEACH-Natural_Access.htm


That's a great idea!!! Wow.
Author:  ecduzitgood [ Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cart for the pro angler
I contacted the company about upgrading/replacing the wheels and they said the 4 wheel upgrade would be about $800 shipped. I cannot afford to spend $800 in the hopes that I can resell this chair so it's back to becoming a cart eventually.
Author:  Halibut hunter [ Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Cart for the pro angler
ecduzitgood,
Take a look here:http://www.hobiecat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=78&p=127741#p127741

This was my solution and it only cost $60 plus the cost of the larger WheelEez tires. Maybe this would be another way to go for you. You already have the tires. Also, use front scupper holes and rear handle to pull around. It makes a big difference...
Author:  ecduzitgood [ Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cart for the pro angler
Thanks for the link that will help me decide (something I'm not very good at :oops: )
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