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Author:  Kent G [ Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Jib Sheet Line
Good evening,

I have been trying to find instructions on how to run the jib sheet lines on my Hobie 16 but can't seem to find actual instructions. I should note that I have the old style system (early 70's) Would anyone have instructions and if you had a picture I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks.
Author:  sunvista [ Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jib Sheet Line
If you have the old style jib cars with the built-in cleat you'd do well to get rid of them. Ronstan makes and upgrade for them at least. I see them on eBay from time to time.
Author:  MBounds [ Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jib Sheet Line
Until you replace them, here's the routine:

There's a pin at the top of the jib cleat/slide. You can either tie a bowline around it with the jib sheet (OK) or just thread the line under the pin and tie a figure eight knot that will pull tight against the metal frame of the cleat/slide (better - can sheet in tighter).

From the attachment at the top of the cleat/slide, go out to the blocks shackled on the jib clew. On the one that's on the same side as you're working on, go from top to bottom through the block, back to the cleat/slide, under the sheave and through the cleat.

Still with the bitter (loose) end of the sheet, continue over to the opposite cleat/slide with the sheet running behind the mast.

Through the cleat & sheave, out to the jib clew block, thread from bottom to top this time, then back to the pin on the cleat/slide and tie off like you did on the other side.

It sounds a lot harder than it is. When you're done, there shouldn't be any twists in the sheet, and a big loop of sheet on the trampoline.
Author:  Kent G [ Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jib Sheet Line
Thanks guys. Unfortunately, the "B" word (budget) that we all don't like to use is going to prevent me from upgrading any hardware for a while, so I'm going to make do with what I've got... for now.

So this is done in one giant loop, right? I'm a little confused but think I can figure it out. Also, I've never rigged a hobie and haven't been around many of them so I'm trying to visualize all the pieces, which is making this a little more difficult.

Thanks again!
Author:  sunvista [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jib Sheet Line
Correct, one big loop. Tie jib sheet to the becket (pin) on the port side jib car. Route through one block on the jib, back through the jaws of the cleat, behind the mast, through the starboard cleat, up through the other jib block, then back to the starboard jib car and tie off to the becket. It is easier to do this without the jib if you just temporarily clip the two jib blocks to the forestay.
Author:  Barren [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jib Sheet Line
Okay.. it took awhile.. but I hunted down an old thread with some pictures and diagrams..

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Author:  Barren [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jib Sheet Line
I just realized you need the older style... dang-it... I know I had a picture of that somewhere... *digs in archives*
Author:  Barren [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jib Sheet Line
wow.. had to hit an old webserver of mine... found them:

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Author:  Kent G [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jib Sheet Line
That's funny, I was just getting ready to go run the lines. So now I'm really confused. I've got the "old style" but I've got two pulley's out on the sides. Any clue as to why and how I rig it? I'll go snap some pictures if needed.

Thanks for all the help though. I appreciate it.
Author:  MBounds [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jib Sheet Line
Kent G wrote:
That's funny, I was just getting ready to go run the lines. So now I'm really confused. I've got the "old style" but I've got two pulley's out on the sides. Any clue as to why and how I rig it? I'll go snap some pictures if needed.

Thanks for all the help though. I appreciate it.


Barren's old style ones are not rigged correctly. Use the photos in his first post as a guide.
Author:  Kent G [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jib Sheet Line
Okay. I can do that. Does that mean that the two pulleys (sorry, I still need to learn the terms) are pretty much useless in my case? Or should I have two more lines that make use of those?
Author:  MBounds [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jib Sheet Line
Block is the word you're looking for (=pulley)

The part that rotates in the block is called a "sheave" (pronounced "shiv").

Those blocks (mounted on their sides, I'll bet) were probably part of a jib traveller control system. If you're just getting started, you don't need them right away.
Author:  Kent G [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jib Sheet Line
Thanks! I'll get that jib sheet line on tonight yet!
Author:  Barren [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jib Sheet Line
Yeah the "old style" ones are not mine.. I just hosted the pics for somebody. As I recall, that user was confused as to how it should be. Funny.. I drank a couple of old styles last night!
Author:  TNewc [ Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jib Sheet Line
This is similar to a question that I am looking for help on. Most of my sailing has been on a 22' sloop I owned in my single days, last year I picked up a used 14 to introduce my kids to sailing. My 14 has a turbo jib, but it also had the sheet running from the cleat up to a block on the jib, back to the cleat and across to the other cleat, up to another block and back to the cleat. I have been asking around for help on it and everyone scratches their head. I found that it worked best to just have the sheet go from one cleat up to being tied hard to the jib and then down to the other block.

Any suggestions? What is the proper method?

Thanks
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