That is a great video of a H18 jumping, much better resolution than the other stuff online I have found.
I want to try that with my boat sometime
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| Author: | nc_native [ Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Here's one for the old timers. Classic H18 jumping. |
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74JyDmAu9Zw&feature=related[/youtube] I actually saw H14 won from a sweepstakes a couple of years ago. Still had the Sunkist sail. |
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| Author: | Chet3 [ Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Here's one for the old timers. Classic. |
That is a great video of a H18 jumping, much better resolution than the other stuff online I have found. I want to try that with my boat sometime
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| Author: | nc_native [ Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Here's one for the old timers. Classic H18 jumping. |
Dang! Swells the size of the outer reefs of Maui?! I gotta move to Georgia!  I somewhat remember this advert and came across it. I thought people would dig it.
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| Author: | Chet3 [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Here's one for the old timers. Classic H18 jumping. |
nc_native wrote: Dang! Swells the size of the outer reefs of Maui?! I gotta move to Georgia! I somewhat remember this advert and came across it. I thought people would dig it.The only way we will get waves big enough to jump in Georgia is off the wake of a big powerboat. |
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| Author: | Harry Murphey [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Here's one for the old timers. Classic H18 jumping. |
When the conditions are right ... "Hereford Inlet" in NJ. You launch from 122st Stone Harbor NJ .... which is the northern side of "Hereford Inlet" ... sail south to a point inside of the sandbars which stretch from Stone Harbor to North Wildwood in the shape of horseshoes ....turn towards the sea ... power up .... and CHARGE ..... It works best when you have a "out-going" tide and a prevailing southerly .... the waves just stack up .... it's best to wait for several hours past low tide since you need the sandbars to be covered so you can sail through/over .... (it is not a inlet you want to take a powerboat through .... nothing bigger then a "jetski") |
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| Author: | Harry Murphey [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Here's one for the old timers. Classic H18 jumping. |
When the conditions are right ... "Hereford Inlet" in NJ. You launch from 122st Stone Harbor NJ .... which is the northern side of "Hereford Inlet" ... sail south to a point inside of the sandbars which stretch from Stone Harbor to North Wildwood in the shape of horseshoes ....turn towards the sea ... power up .... and CHARGE ..... It works best when you have a "out-going" tide and a prevailing southerly .... the waves just stack up .... it's best to wait for several hours past low tide since you need the sandbars to be covered so you can sail through/over .... (it is not a inlet you want to take a powerboat through .... nothing bigger then a "jetski") |
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| Author: | Harry Murphey [ Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Here's one for the old timers. Classic H18 jumping. |
I found it .... my favorite video ... no matter how bad the day, it always puts a smile on my face ... YouTube/trimaransailingextreme/everybody |
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| Author: | ledfoot2 [ Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Here's one for the old timers. Classic H18 jumping. |
Those are awesome videos. Does anyone have a link to the old hobie videos of the 18 sailing across the sand and triple trapping from the sharing the wind video? |
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| Author: | BrianCT [ Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Here's one for the old timers. Classic H18 jumping. |
Excellent clip, those old Sunkist ads were great. I'm guessing those Sunkist colored sails are custom one offs? Also, at :19 is that what people refer to as a "chicken line" and, if yes, does it differ from the Hawaiian-style righting line? |
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| Author: | srm [ Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Here's one for the old timers. Classic H18 jumping. |
Yes, chicken line or sissy cord. It's basically just a line that is tied off to the transom (either through the rudder pin or to a separate becket riveted to the hull lip). It's hard to say from the video whether it's part of the righting system or a separate line, but the idea is the same either way, just a heavy piece of line or hollow braid that the crew can hang onto to keep from getting launched forward. sm |
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| Author: | Harry Murphey [ Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Here's one for the old timers. Classic H18 jumping. |
He's using a "Hawaiian Style" righting line as a "chicken line" ..... A true (and best set-up) chicken line is usually rigged inside the rear crossbar, and sometimes inside the front crossbar also .... it is self-retracking (using bungie cord) .... has a stopper knot, on the inside of the crossbar that usually sets the length when it passes through a hole in the crossbar endcap .... it usually has a stopper ball on the outside to prevent it's being completely sucked back in, and a clip to hook on to your harness ... usually the "spreader bar" ..... That's the way I've seen them rigged on the Nacra's and Prindles over the years The problem w/ a "Hawaiian" Righting System is that on the H18 it tends to drag behind in the water .... I have a perfectly good one in a box somewhere out in the garage .... I just use a 20' dockline w/ a eye spliced in the end ... it's sized so that when/if turtled I can hang off the corner of the H18 transom, by standing on the gunwale ... hook the eye on my trapese hook ... and lean back ... my crew climbs on me like a ladder .... this will roll the boat on to it's side ... and after that it is just a routine "righting" .... Note: this is the "worst case" capsize .... |
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| Author: | BrianCT [ Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Here's one for the old timers. Classic H18 jumping. |
Thanks guys. Harry, that's what I noticed with the Hawaiian-style boats on my beach - the lines tend to sag below the tramp (even with the shock chord/block tensioner). With your 20' line, is it simply tied off to the dolphin striker? That's how I'm set up today although I'm going to try and get a thicker line this spring. |
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| Author: | Harry Murphey [ Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Here's one for the old timers. Classic H18 jumping. |
I use a 3/8" dockline ... that I have basically tied to the dolfin striker ... pass it up through the center tramp lacing ... and kept in a Murrays' "Big Tramp Bag" that I have permenately tied to my tramp (I keep water bottles, cloths, spare line, a COLLAPSIBLE PADDLE(!!!) etc,etc in it) . When the boat is on it's side, as I stand on the bottom hull I can retrieve it from the bag and easily throw it over the upper hull ... grab it and while standing on the dagger board, put a loop quickly in it to hook onto my harness and then lean back while my crew uses me for a ladder ... and up she comes ... The biggest problem I had w/ the "Hawaiian " system was trying to retrieve it while the boat was on it's side ... unlike the H16 where you can just reach between the hulls and the tramp .... on the H18 I found I would have to climb up the Dolphin Striker so I could retrieve it and throw it over the upper hull .... (this would "turtle" the boat if you weren't "quick about it") ... I gave up on the "Hawaiian" system before I learned you could rig it under the tramp .... but then it still drags in the water, (you can hear the waves slapping it up against the bottom of the tramp .....). ... So it didn't make sense to me when racing, to worry about "drag" .... sand/polish my hulls/daggersboards/rudder blades w/ 2000 grit wet/dry and then polish ... only to drag a large loop of a righting line system in the water behind me ..... or have waves beat against it under the tramp .... |
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| Author: | Skipshot [ Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Here's one for the old timers. Classic H18 jumping. |
Harry Murphey wrote: ... and kept in a Murrays' "Big Tramp Bag" that I have permenately tied to my tramp. . . I dedicate a tramp pocket to the righting line so stuff won't fall out when it's retrieved.
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| Author: | hrtsailor [ Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Here's one for the old timers. Classic H18 jumping. |
On my H-16, I tie my righting line to one forward post then run it through the dolphin striker to the other post and tie it off there. If I go over, I untie the down side and right the boat. It doesn't sag and it is easy to reach when needed. |
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