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Author:  arteta2k [ Sat May 02, 2020 1:18 am ]
Post subject:  Rudder camber/cant ?
One of those days where I can't work on 'time on the water' and I was letting my mind drift a minute.. Watching Volvo 70 boats... you know just one of those things.


So when measuring the toe in the other day I happened to notice that they measure about an inch or so wider at tip of the rudder than they do at the head of the rudder. on the trailing edge.

I imagine withing just the manufacturing tolerances of the various parts their could be a small range of 'adjustment'.

Is there any advantage to running a little 'negative' camber, or is the goal to have them as parallel as possible?

I can't recall ever hearing anyone discuss this. probably because within the range of adjustment there ain't much to be had.. but still?
Author:  mmiller [ Sat May 02, 2020 12:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rudder camber/cant ?
They need to be parallel to no more than 1/4" toe in for best performance. We set them at about 1/8" toe in. What model boat? Most have adjustable tiller crossbar lengths. Wave and Getaway do not, but maybe a tiller arm is bent.
Author:  srm [ Sat May 02, 2020 2:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rudder camber/cant ?
I think the OP is referring to parallel in the vertical axis. I.e., how close to “plumb” should the rudders be if the boat is sitting level side to side?

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Author:  mmiller [ Sat May 02, 2020 2:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rudder camber/cant ?
arteta2k wrote:
So when measuring the toe in the other day...
Author:  speed633 [ Sun May 03, 2020 9:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rudder camber/cant ?
hmmmm rudder camber. Maybe? it's complicated? Sometimes?

More negative camber would...
:( reduce vertical lift
:) increase lateral resistance (very slightly)
:) Reduce the rudders tendency to pitch the bows down when falling off/coming away from the wind.
:( Reduce the rudders tendency to pitch the bows up when coming into the wind. A couple of times I have dug my bow free by steering hard into the wind. This only works if you are heeling a lot.

Weighing everything out, I suspect there isn't an advantage. When sailed at their best, cats don't heel much. Monohulls heel enough to make it worthwhile to add cambered rudders.
Author:  mmiller [ Mon May 04, 2020 9:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rudder camber/cant ?
Ahh.. yeah.

Now I see... he was looking at Toe and then saw the vertical difference.
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