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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:12 pm 
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Hey folks,

Just wanted to hear opinions on whether folks thought that the papaya or the seagrass had better visibility across all light and water conditions.

My reasons for eliminating red is that it is hard to see in low light conditions. Slate and camo are just plain hard to see and dune is hard to see if there is froth or white caps.

I spend a lot of time on the Willamette river in Portland and there are a ton of pleasure boaters in the summer (in varying degrees of intoxication of course). My 2011 Outback is papaya which was the best choice back then but I am planning on getting a 2019 and thus I am raising the question.

Any input (anecdotal is fine) is appreciated.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:26 pm 
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I would stick with the papaya. Hard to miss it and its the only color that looks good enough to eat :D


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:13 pm 
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pdxfisher wrote:

...there are a ton of pleasure boaters in the summer (in varying degrees of intoxication of course). My 2011 Outback is papaya which was the best choice back then but I am planning on getting a 2019 and thus I am raising the question.

Any input (anecdotal is fine) is appreciated.
Regardless of color, if another boater isn't looking where he is going, there are a couple of other things you can do to get his attention.

1. Daytime strobe on a pole helps in low light and fog, can catch an eye looking the other way.

2. An airhorn lets you communicate with the boater without him even seeing you. Even if he's blind (unless he is deaf too), it WILL get his attention. Here are some common signals for anyone interested. https://www.boaterexam.com/navigationru ... g-off.aspx
Even for someone who doesn't know the protocol, the loud noise works anyway!

For a highly visible color, I agree with jeffreydc -- papaya. 8)


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:50 pm 
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I've got a Papaya and was just told that I stick out like a sore thumb on the lake I was on. Another friend was able to see me out on the lake as he was passing by on the freeway.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:06 pm 
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Seagrass is getting close to the most visible color in low light. Papaya would be my choice for daytime. Pick a color that goes well with your wardrobe. 8)


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:16 am 
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Thanks for the input folks! I definitely feel like the papaya color of my 2011 is pretty easy to see and if the seagrass was not offered I would easily pick it. Sounds like most folks things papaya is a bit more visible than seagrass - at least during the day. Likely I will try to get a papaya but if there is a seagrass in stock (and not a papaya) I may just take that. Ideally, I will get to see both colors next to each other and will be able to make a decision.

Roadrunner, I have an all-round white boat light on a pole that I use in low light conditions and I always run a bright fluorescent flag. I had not considered a strobe, I wonder if that is annoying to have on. I don't want to give someone a seizure.

Pounce, I am not sure which color goes best with my eyes :) I also agree that seagrass may be a bit more visible under low light but probably a bit less visible in the middle of the day.

Thanks again for the input, I think in the end both colors have some benefit and I will make the decision based on availability.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:40 pm 
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pdxfisher wrote:
I had not considered a strobe, I wonder if that is annoying to have on. I don't want to give someone a seizure.
I think it would be annoying if you left it on all the time. It might work best with a remote switch so it would be available on demand. 8)


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:26 pm 
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I think I understand RR, you mean turn it on when a boat nears but leave it off at other times. That makes sense. I was thinking how horrible it would be to have something flashing while fishing. I guess a handheld would work about as well. I could hold it up as needed.

I think my all-round white light is pretty good, but if it had a blinking mode I agree that would be even better. I think with the 2019 I could mount it on the rear H-rail and reach it pretty easily.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:55 pm 
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Hobie makes a flag/light combo. Railblaza has a nice visibility kit with mount.


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