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 Post subject: Texas Power Paddle
PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:58 am 
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Anyone have any experience with this product? I’ve been considering a trolling motor upgrade for my compass and came across this product on austinkayak.com.

Seems very simple to install.


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 Post subject: Re: Texas Power Paddle
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:39 am 
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Welcome to the forum!

I've looked into it and it's not for me for several reasons. I can't get passed the cost (it's considerably more than a Torqeedo 403AC), there's little or no data available on how run times on various kayaks and it's has many mounting limitations including preventing the use of a fish finder with the transducer mounted in the Lowrance ready pocket under the kayak. I understand it's designed pretty much for fishing shallow saltwater flats but most of us fish more than just those waters. Rarely are you going to find a kayak fisherman who solely fishes the salt flats that wants/needs a motor.

The fact that it costs more than a Torqeedo 403AC is shocking and disappointing to me. Even if it were the same price point as a Bixpy I still wouldn't consider it.

Just my opinion.


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 Post subject: Re: Texas Power Paddle
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:44 pm 
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Thanks for your input.
I mostly agree with you. Displacing the FF Sensor is a big problem for anyone lake fishing.

Are the Torqeedo units something you would recommend a Hobie dealer to install? Also, thoughts on the mirage drive mounted Torqeedo Evolve versus the aft mounted 403 AC?

I would guess that the aft mount still allows for mirage pedal drive use. Why would someone still want access to the mirage pedal fins with a trolling motor installed?

Thanks! Really love my new Hobie hobby.


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 Post subject: Re: Texas Power Paddle
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:32 am 
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SaltyHorn wrote:
Are the Torqeedo units something you would recommend a Hobie dealer to install? Also, thoughts on the mirage drive mounted Torqeedo Evolve versus the aft mounted 403 AC?

I would guess that the aft mount still allows for mirage pedal drive use. Why would someone still want access to the mirage pedal fins with a trolling motor installed?

I know of several Hobie dealers that do install the Torqeedo line of electric motors. I'm not sure all dealers do but many do. The Evolve is a plug and play system with little or no mounting. It also allows you to use the motor on different kayaks if necessary. The 403 can be raised when in grassy or shallow areas and the pedal drive can then be used (to feather in shallow water). In addition to grassy or shallow water scenarios some use both the motor and pedal drive to preserve battery and/or just get some exercise. Some don't like using the motor in certain situations when stealth is important.


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 Post subject: Re: Texas Power Paddle
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:32 am 
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SaltyHorn wrote:
Are the Torqeedo units something you would recommend a Hobie dealer to install? Also, thoughts on the mirage drive mounted Torqeedo Evolve versus the aft mounted 403 AC?

I would guess that the aft mount still allows for mirage pedal drive use. Why would someone still want access to the mirage pedal fins with a trolling motor installed?

I know of several Hobie dealers that do install the Torqeedo line of electric motors. I'm not sure all dealers do but many do. The Evolve is a plug and play system with little or no mounting. It also allows you to use the motor on different kayaks if necessary. The 403 can be raised when in grassy or shallow areas and the pedal drive can then be used (to feather in shallow water). In addition to grassy or shallow water scenarios some use both the motor and pedal drive to preserve battery and/or just get some exercise. Some don't like using the motor in certain situations when stealth is important.


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 Post subject: Re: Texas Power Paddle
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:06 pm 
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If you have any questions about our propulsion unit just reach out to us- I am Damon the owner. The Texas Power Paddle unit was designed to run in super skinny water and retract when it touches bottom or on demand. The key feature is its small size and ability to retract fully into the hull. The unit will push a Outback or PA about the speed of moderate pedaling and will last up to six hours with the included battery pack. The unit is easy to take on/off so if you want to use your fish finder one day instead of the motor it only take a few minutes. We have quite a few users on the coast and if you want to demo a unit you can at Fin Factory Kayak and Tackle in Corpus. Of course you can always come take a tour at our facility in Austin and take a spin on Ladybird Lake and see how we make them in the great state of Texas. Thanks for the support www.texaspowerpaddle.com


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 Post subject: Re: Texas Power Paddle
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:33 pm 
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Howdy - Ah... the Texas Power Paddle. I absolutely love that thing. I've been using it on one of my kayaks since February 2020. It's like any propulsion system though. It just adds a different component on how to get around; but you can still use the mirage drive; so it still feels like you're kayaking. It's mentioned that its only for shallow saltwater fishing, or flats fishing. Don't get me wrong, it excels at that, but it does way more. Where I find the biggest advantage is when i use the unit to go BTB, (offshore). Form the beach to the platforms. So, it would be hard to limit it to just shallow water. Quick going out, quick coming back, and, my legs don't feel like jello. I would highly recommend it. Hey, but don't take my word for it. If you happen to come to Rockport any time soon, let me know, i'll let you try it out and give it your own review.

-Matt Murphy


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 Post subject: Re: Texas Power Paddle
PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:24 am 
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Hello, just received my Texas Power Paddle and thought I'd share my experience.

Model: "Marlin Intergrated Rudder Propulsion Kit
https://shop.texaspowerpaddle.com/collections/propulsion-systems/products/integrated-rudder-propulsion-kit

How I use it:
- I am using the motor in calm coastal waters to ferry my family around to different beaches - not to fish
- I fit it to a Hobie Compass Duo using the Marlin Rudder Kit

How it performs:
- In the Compass Duo, at full power, with me pedaling quite gently on the Mirage, carrying 1 wife, 2 kids, a loaded cooler box and a dog (probably 200kg) I average about 3-4MPH. With my wife and I paddling and no extra weight I imagine we could average 5MPH indefinitely will taking breaks whenever we want to. 1 hour of running uses about 40% of the battery (brand new, so I presume their 2hour estimate is quite accurate).

Why its great:
A lot of very shallow water, rock and beach landing around us. With the rudder pulled up using the stock rudder retraction system (which also folds up automatically if impacted) the motor is fully nestled in cavity between the rudder and the hull. It is completely protected and I don't need to worry about it when dragging the kayak onto the beach or hitting a rock. As designed, it runs in extremely shallow water.
Also the speed control which attaches onto the stock Hobie rudder control is ultra simple and does not require any extra attachments or loose controls. Although I havn't used the Bixpy or Torqueedo, this system is undoubtedly the least invasive and essentially keeps the kayak running as stock - no need to swap out mirage drive, no need to drill any holes, no need to add bars/tillers, no need to attach and remove motor every time. Super simple and low friction.

Installation:
Instructions said 15 minutes. Took me under 5 minutes, and I have a hard time with Ikea. Excellent manual and online instruction videos. No decoding Swedish logic necessary.


Comparison with Torqueedo/Bixpy:
Not sure where one of the above posters got the idea that the Torqueedo was cheaper... as listed Bixpy $1350, Power Paddle $1800, Torqeedo 403A $1800 (all including mounting kits). But lets look at what you're really buying - the battery . Included battery: Bixpy 378wh/25.2v, Power Paddle 615wh/16v, Torqeedo 320wh/29.6v.

Now I presume the Power Paddle will be the least efficient because the motor is mounted very shallow -but I doubt it is more than a couple % difference. But basically, if we consider that the Power Paddle drains its battery in 2 hours (already probably minimum to be practical for most use), the Torqueedo & Bixpy might out run it, but will just run out of batteries impractically quickly. In fact, the Torqueedo 403A seems downright silly - too much motor for a little battery - the 403AC makes much more sense with a 915wh battery, but pushes the price up to $2,300.

So, I think the Power Paddle has a really good mounting system with very little tradeoff.
If you want to save money, I guess the Bixpy seems like a really good deal.
If you want to turn your kayak into a speedboat I guess the 403AC at $2,300 is probably the way to go....


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 Post subject: Re: Texas Power Paddle
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:31 pm 
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I got a Texas Power Paddle for my Revolution 13. I actually got the new version that attaches to the twist-and-stow rudder.

I've taken a few trips with it so far and am loving it. It is very unobtrusive: the rudder goes up-and-down with ease, and most of the time when I am paddling or pedaling with it off, I don't notice any drag. I throw the battery in the rear-well and the control slides onto the rudder control easily. Very easy to set-up and disconnect.

Speedwise I find it about equivalent to peddling moderately (faster than paddling). I have run it for probably three hours or so and used around 50% battery. The noise is pretty tame (you hear it but I don't find it obtrusive). For short trips I just leave the battery and control at home and the motor on the rudder -- no problem.

I use it primarily on long trips (>10 miles) to give myself a break now and again. The ultimate test to me was whether I would bring it along for trips where I didn't think I would need it but might: i.e. was it simple enough to bring alone and useful enough even when I thought I wouldn't need... answer is yes.

Expensive but I do recommend it.


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 Post subject: Re: Texas Power Paddle
PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:29 am 
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Took it on another trip today, a couple details I thought I would add:

* With the throttle at ~75% I was doing about 4.2 MPH. (That was with ~350 lbs of person and gear in a Revolution 13.)
* Noise was low enough I could still hear the water lapping against the kayak
* Going approximately 4 miles on motor-only used about 40% of battery.
* Throttle attaches securely to rudder control, but easy to slide on-and-off (to, for example, get in-and-out of boat)
* Having the motor mounted behind the rudder guards it against hitting obstructions, something that concerned me with the mirage drive-based motors.
* Paddling or Pedaling with the motor running was a nice way to still get exercise while going faster for the same effort


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