bigbore501 wrote:
1st question, With no pedal power are these kayaks "NOT FUN" paddling? 2nd question, is the price OK? 3rd Question: How much to install a Mirage Drive?
Welcome to the forum and retirement! Most Hobie kayaks (including the Outback) are not known for their paddling excellence. This is primarily because they don't have skegs (necessary for good tracking) so they can turn quicker. They are not designed for paddling and are different from the Hobie's paddling line.
The Drive is the heart of the boat, so if someone is selling the boat only, I would be suspicious, regardless of that reason you're given. There could be a hidden leak or a patched crack (that would open up again if a Drive were to be used. The cam columns can be cracked, meaning the boat night not leak, but it can no longer utilize a Drive. Unfortunately there are some unscrupulous people who try to resell their old boat that has been "totaled" and replaced by Hobie , but not destroyed. I would stay away from this deal and spend a little more for a complete boat, or buy a kayak that at least paddles well!
A Mirage Drive typically costs $300 to $400 used in fair to good condition. For someone who is new to Hobies, your 2009 and newer Mirage boats and Drives are more durable and reliable. Significant changes were made in the Drives and Drive attachment method that year. Always verify the year model by looking at the last 2 digits on the serial# (stern area side or lower). boats are sometimes older than advertised!