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 Post subject: Mirage Passport
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:31 pm 
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Just got in line for 2...hope they are nice

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 Post subject: Re: Mirage Passport
PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:47 pm 
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I just spent a little time going over the specs and all, they do look kind of nice to me. They are a bit short, probably very stable as I think they are the same width as the compass.
I might be wrong but is this Hobie's first thermoformed hull? I was searching around and it looks like at least the other mirage kayaks are all rotomolded. That might explain the lighter weight. I definitely like the price too!
If I ever got one of these, I think the sail kit would add a lot of fun as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Mirage Passport
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:10 am 
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We have done thermalform back in our history with a small sailboat, but yes... first kayak done this way.

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 Post subject: Re: Mirage Passport
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:14 am 
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I looked but didn't find any info on the inseam or leg room on this kayak vs maybe an Outback. I'm 6'2". Would the Passport be cramped or any different that an Outback?


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 Post subject: Re: Mirage Passport
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:55 am 
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Maybe a bit cramped, but similar leg length. It's a small kayak.

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 Post subject: Re: Mirage Passport
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:47 pm 
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This is excellent timing (except I want them now of course). I have been going over ads for used Hobies past couple weeks. Was wishing for something Sport size but could hold me 206 1/2 lbs and a big ole cooler and things...BAMM here it is and at this price I will get 2...I once had five (2 Sports, 2 13s and one 11) at once about 4 or so years ago but sold when Vantage seat was hinted ....
I wanted 2 so I can bring friends along and introduce them to Hobie fun....
A cool thing about Hobies is how on longer kayak outings I can pull a few in old school yaks when they get a lil tired...especially into the wind... makes me a bit of a "Hobie Hero Hunk" minus the Hunk....I guess you could say

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 Post subject: Re: Mirage Passport
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This looks promising, but hard to tell the tradeoffs when the marketing just lists positives. The Passport might be tailored for rental markets, just like how the Hobie Wave Cat can be seen lined up along so many resort complexes.

I see the hull is listed as "stackable" - I wonder if this gives the hull a different feel in the water in terms of tippiness, wave handling, or speed. Looks like the sailkit compatibility is a happy result of needing a forward post for bimini sunshade option. Does the replaceable keel guard foretell more care is needed for beaching?

Kudos to sir "fusioneng" for campaigning against inefficient and expensive rotomold approach for Hobie kayaks. Kudos to me for campaigning against complex and expensive 180 mirage drive option. Now the solution is here, although nobody seems to accept there is a 6 month debugging period needed for many new models.

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 Post subject: Re: Mirage Passport
PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:05 pm 
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Well, at 10.5' long and 34" wide I'm sure it's going to be a boat, ha ha, okay a barge :) But jeez, with the less complicated (yet still very efficient) mirage drive and lighter weight I'm thinking it's going to sell very well.
And yep, add in the ability to add the sail kit ... it looks like a real winner to me. Well done Hobie!!
Finally, an affordable, less complicated Hobie peddle drive most people should be able to afford.


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 Post subject: Re: Mirage Passport
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1000 bucks difference between this and a compass in Canada. Only thing is will it plow in lakes, seems from the video almost glass lake and the water is almost coming over the bow?


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 Post subject: Re: Mirage Passport
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I have pedaled it in rough seas. Very buoyant and pops up and over swells and chop.

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 Post subject: Re: Mirage Passport
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Is there a transducer mount? I'm guessing not since it isn't mentioned in the specs.


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 Post subject: Re: Mirage Passport
PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:36 am 
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Is not Lowrance Ready. This is a value, entry level product.

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 Post subject: Re: Mirage Passport
PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:53 am 
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mmiller wrote:
We have done thermalform back in our history with a small sailboat, but yes... first kayak done this way.


Mark kuddos to Hobie for "thinking outside the box". Wondering why Hobie joined the Pelican kayak market in going with a rotomolded hull? Guessing cost was the driving factor?


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 Post subject: Re: Mirage Passport
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mmiller wrote:
Is not Lowrance Ready. This is a value, entry level product.


Makes sense, thanks for confirming.


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 Post subject: Re: Mirage Passport
PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:14 pm 
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mmiller wrote:
Maybe a bit cramped, but similar leg length. It's a small kayak.


Thanks. Are there any specs for the legroom to peg? I'm not finding any. For example when I look on Austin Kayaks I see a leg to peg for the Outback at 45". They don't have a line item for the Passport nor was I able to find one on the Hobie site. I'm more or less just trying to quantify it.

The drive well is a standard well, correct? Meaning I have take a 180 drive out of my 2019 Outback and plop it in no problem?


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