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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:30 pm 
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Friday after work, I set about changing over the T@ to a H16 mast and mainsail. I don't know if anyone has measured their mast but the Hobie spec that came with my boat as well their website, says it's 24' 7.3" So imagine my surprise to find the mast is 26' 6" long?
Say what? That's identical to the H16 mast I have? I got both masts together and matched them up, the only difference is the height of the feed channel for the bolt rope, it's about 6" higher on the T@ mast. That means the only thing required was to....
HOIST THE SAIL Now, my judgement is based on just one day so far but I want others involved, this is the boat, I think, we all wanted.
We had a weak winds this weekend with only 7mph yesterday and none today but I really feel great about this upgrade. Now keep in mind, the sail I'm using has a bad bolt rope so I couldn't get the downhaul more than 4" but in what we were sailing in, the T16 kept pace with the H16's with no problems, side by side, windward, leeward, front or rear and I'm only using the factory jib. In fact, because the T@ can tack on a starfish and give 4 points back, the T16 was faster than the H16's at getting around and moving.
So this is it! I haven't felt this good about a boat in a long time. Measure you mast and if it's 26'+, borrow a friends 16 mainsail for an hour and you will see for yourself. It should also be able to be fitted with either the normal H16 jib or the furling one.
Because the mainsheet now angles backwards to the H16 boom (Better control of mast rotation), the lower block on the mainsheet interferes with the tiller crossbar stick connector. I spun the bar around so it also pointed backwards but it needs a better solution.
I really hope others will try this but it may wipe out the H16 market if Hobie ever brought it out. I figure the originals sails will be saved for heavy wind days when it needs powered down and getting a new set for it. I really hate to give Hobie more money for a new sail that should have at least been an upgrade option, again in my opinion.... I just had to change the rear graphic today after washing her down.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:33 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:12 am 
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i never paid much attention to the published lengths, but I do remember reading something somewhere that the 16 and T2 masts were basically interchangeable if you swap the base.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:51 am 
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drill out the rivets and move the boom bail forward

and then buy a H16 SuperR pentax sail for it :twisted:

Looking forward to your report of what wind speed you trapeze

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:27 am 
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Certainly sounds promising. I am looking forward to hearing more. If it truly proves to be the holy grail, it is good to know all we need to do is keep our eyes open for an H16 sail and boom.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:27 am 
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buxton, i see you have your Gen pole attached, but not the Gen. How'd that work out for you? got any pictures with the Gen attached/unfurled? I have been considering adding one for the light wind days here. although lately it's been me sitting out because I couldn't get crew on short notice after work and it's been too windy for solo, even with just the main.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:09 am 
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coreboarder wrote:
buxton, i see you have your Gen pole attached, but not the Gen. How'd that work out for you? got any pictures with the Gen attached/unfurled? I have been considering adding one for the light wind days here. although lately it's been me sitting out because I couldn't get crew on short notice after work and it's been too windy for solo, even with just the main.


I'm not sold on the Gen yet, I get my best results from it if I furl the jib. Sailing solo, you have to add the switch over to your tack, furl in and out with each one. The blocks that come with it don't have cleats so you have to hold the sheet along with the main unless you change them. I bought a set to match the jib and that helps a lot. Would I buy it again? No. I'd spend the money on a 16 main and jib. I can get you some photos of it, maybe make me an offer?

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79' H16 "Green Lightning"
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81' 14T x 3
02' Getaway
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:48 pm 
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The T2 board has been too quiet. Hopefully due to the fact that everyone is out sailing instead of sitting at their computer. Anyway, any update on your T16 development buxton? Should I be shopping for a good H16 sail?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:43 am 
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I'm on vacation until Friday with another week off, I have a new set of Tortola sails # 114920 waiting at home. I need to move the bridle wires forward to the handle holes with Dyneema shackles to make the jib work and I'd like to make it a furling one too. 4"o.d. pipe fits the hole snug so I'd like to add a spreder bar up there some how. I'll add so photos when I get home.

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79' H16 "Green Lightning"
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81' 14T x 3
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:31 pm 
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I want to see a T2 sail on H16 hulls. Can you do that?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:23 pm 
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Just curious, anyone sailed a T2 with the rig change with a H16 to observe the performance difference?

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