Return to Hobie.com
Hobie Forums
It is currently Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:15 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:57 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Captain

Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:39 pm
Posts: 42
I just bought a 1986 H16 "red line" that is excellent condition. It's been kept in a garage for the last 10 years and the hulls are solid. I've read most of the posts regarding these "red line" boats and there seems to be some concerns about fragility. Is there anything I can or should do to beef up the boat? There are several posts about adding support to the H18 boats, but since i can't access the inner hull, I'm not sure what to do with mine. I'm also sure there is lead inside this boat's pylons. I took the boat apart to clean and rebuild it and I can here some shifting around in the rear pylons on each hull. Should I take this lead out to maximize performance or leave it as is. I'm new to the board so thanks in advance!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:33 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Tue May 27, 2003 12:44 pm
Posts: 15027
Location: Oceanside, California
I don't recall any issues for the Hobie 16 Red Line... The problems were all H18.

_________________
Matt Miller
Former - Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Warranty and Technical Support
Hobie Cat USA
(Retired 11/7/2022)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:24 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:35 am
Posts: 438
Location: Opelika/Lake Martin, Alabama
Lead in the hulls of a 16? Maybe what you are hearing are the foam blocks bumping around in there. My '84 is a "redline" and is light, never heard of them having lead in them. I haven't had any issues at all with my boat, she too was garage kept and lightly used.

_________________
Marty
1984 H16 Yellow Nationals Redline, "Yellow Fever"
Lake Martin, 'Bama.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:27 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Tue May 27, 2003 12:44 pm
Posts: 15027
Location: Oceanside, California
Missed the part about the lead... That was added in the beginning as the minimum boat weight for racing was 340. You can try to remove it. Once the rules changed they quit adding the weight.

_________________
Matt Miller
Former - Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Warranty and Technical Support
Hobie Cat USA
(Retired 11/7/2022)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:26 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Captain

Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:39 pm
Posts: 42
Great to hear that there are no issues with the H16 red lines. I misunderstood and thought the concerns were with all the red line boats. I'll let you know if I find any lead. Thanks for the feedback!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:51 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:35 am
Posts: 438
Location: Opelika/Lake Martin, Alabama
Where would the lead be located and how does one go about removing it? I thought the redline boats were built to get the weights down closer to 320lbs?

_________________
Marty
1984 H16 Yellow Nationals Redline, "Yellow Fever"
Lake Martin, 'Bama.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:24 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Tue May 27, 2003 12:44 pm
Posts: 15027
Location: Oceanside, California
Inside the rear pylon. I believe capped with resin. They had to make the boats conform to the rule (340 lbs) until it changed to 320. It was a short period.

_________________
Matt Miller
Former - Director of Parts and Accessory Sales
Warranty and Technical Support
Hobie Cat USA
(Retired 11/7/2022)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:28 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:35 am
Posts: 438
Location: Opelika/Lake Martin, Alabama
So now I am wondering if my 84 boat has lead in it. It seems really light. I guess the only way to find out is to weigh it because I'm not taking my pristine beauty apart, Lol.

_________________
Marty
1984 H16 Yellow Nationals Redline, "Yellow Fever"
Lake Martin, 'Bama.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:18 pm 
Offline
Hobie Approved Guru

Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2003 7:11 pm
Posts: 5197
Location: Detroit, MI
mmiller wrote:
Inside the rear pylon. I believe capped with resin. They had to make the boats conform to the rule (340 lbs) until it changed to 320. It was a short period.
Pretty sure the lead in my '84 was in the front pylons, but it's been a long time. And it was capped / infused with urethane foam. I still have a chunk of it:
Image

Marty - you can't tell if there's lead by weighing the boat. You have to take the boat apart, pull the foam plugs out of the pylons and look down inside them.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:53 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Mon May 09, 2005 10:25 am
Posts: 4176
Location: Jersey Shore
Seems like way too much work for getting a couple pounds out of a 30+ year old boat.

sm


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:45 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Old Salt

Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:35 am
Posts: 438
Location: Opelika/Lake Martin, Alabama
Yeah, okay then. I'm not interested in racing the boat anyway so I guess it really doesn't matter to me if the boat has a little lead in it for weight. I'm not taking my boat apart to find out, it's very light anyway.

_________________
Marty
1984 H16 Yellow Nationals Redline, "Yellow Fever"
Lake Martin, 'Bama.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:21 pm 
Offline
Site Rank - Captain

Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:39 pm
Posts: 42
Checked in the pylons on my 1986 H16 red line while I have her taken apart and didn't find any lead. Front or back.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:31 am 
Offline
Site Rank - Captain

Joined: Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:38 am
Posts: 37
anyone remember how much lead & which pylons?? our 84 hulls (redline weigh 84# & 85# respectively..)
i'll bet there is lead in the pylons..we got the hulls off and the foam seems pristine in the pylons..do you just pull it out looking for the lead?

I was thinking the hulls weighed what they did due to the fact they are painted...I don't believe they are waterlogged..but maybe there is lead in them there hills

_________________
Detroit..north of


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Jump to:  
© Hobie Cat Company. All rights reserved.
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group