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 Post subject: hobie foiling
PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:25 pm 
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I have a question regarding foiling, with all the new foiling cats around is it possible to imagine a hobie 16 with foils is it even possible ?


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 Post subject: Re: hobie foiling
PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:19 pm 
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buccaneer wrote:
I have a question regarding foiling, with all the new foiling cats around is it possible to imagine a hobie 16 with foils is it even possible ?
Theoretically, yes. However, its "flight regime" - the points of sail / wind speeds that would enable flying with the hulls clear of the water would be very limited. The other 99% of the time, the boat would not be foiling and the extra drag of the foils would make the boat even slower.

Foils work best on lightweight boats with very efficient sail plans - like an A-Class Catamaran. An A weighs half what a Hobie 16 does. Even then, they don't foil all the way around a race course. They're very twitchy, athletic boats.

Foils are very highly-engineered, carbon fiber constructions = $$$$. Look on the A-Class website in their classified sections. $400 rudders (each). $600 daggerboards (used). $15,000 boat platforms (no foils, tramp, sails or mast).

Foiling is an expensive game.


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 Post subject: Re: hobie foiling
PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:30 am 
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Agreed with Matt Bounds 110%.
My buddy bought/installed an A Cat mast and rig for his Unicorn, then got foils/rudders as a winter works project.

After research (including visiting Bermuda for the America's Cup) he found out that the stresses on the frame (cross-bars and hull junction points) would need to be re-engineered.....and it would be cheaper to spend $25,000 and buy a small used foiling cat.

If you want to try foiling, see if you can buy a Moth.....that is a cost effective solution, although a 'wet' one :lol: .

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 Post subject: Re: hobie foiling
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:35 pm 
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I have had no experience with foils. Hobie made the trifoiler for a while.
see if you can get a used one. it was designed for foils, or Dave Clark's new
UFO foiler also designed to foil..


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