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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:24 pm 
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I bought an older Hobie 16, so I joined the forum to get some help in learning about the little catamaran...

Ive been a sailor for many years, but only on monohulls.... we sold our 34ft sailboat last year and downsized a bit to a power cruiser... but I miss the sailing, so I purchased a 1977 Hobie 16... it is "sail" ready, but I have to question the way it has been rigged by the PO.

it seems that the forestay connection may be jury rigged, and im looking for photos for how it should be connected to the bridal from the hulls...

is there a manual somewhere that would explain all the questions I have? I fully understand the concept, but I would like to see it rigged in a manner so that it doesnt look like something Fred Sanford may have owned...

today I stood the mast for the first time, and with the forestay tensioned as tight as it will go, the shrouds are still floppy loose and the mast sways around in its step, and altheough I know NOTHING about a catamaran, I know enough about sailboats in general to know this isnt right...

the forestay has 2 multi hole "shroud" adjusters connected end to end, and if I were to remove one of the adjusters, the rigging may have a chance of coming taut, but before I assume someting that will cause me troubles, Im asking for some guidance....
Thank you for any input you may have...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:29 am 
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Hobie has a video for you on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxctIJVOAd0

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:26 am 
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Remember that the mast is raked back. Instead of the fore stay, your side stays might be the problem. Many Hobie 16 sailors will add a second shroud adjuster to get the rake back where it needs to be. Very, very different positioning from a mono-hull.

Compared to a mono-hull, a cat's mast is raked further back, and on the Hobie 16 it's raked back a lot. There should be some slop in the side shrouds and some people leave quite a bit of slop there. A mono-hull sailor will freak when the mast shifts from side-to-side, while a cat sailor doesn't even notice it. A cat will only have two stays tight at a time, one side stay and the fore-stay.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:01 pm 
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The Hobie 16 forestay/shroud/jib arrangement is unique and somewhat non-intuitive. The rig will be very sloppy and loose until the jib is raised. THIS IS THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. Do not try to tension the rig by dropping the forestay down in the adjuster.

There is a stainless steel wire that is sewn inside the jib luff. This wire becomes the forestay once the jib is hoisted and tensioned and the actual forestay wire will be totally slack. Use the 3:1 purchase on the jib halyard line to set your rig tension. Most likely the original owner had two adjusters attached to the bridle so that the forestay can be attached to the top of the upper adjuster and the jib tack gets attached to the lower adjuster. Once the jib is hoisted, a bungee cord can be hooked onto the upper adjuster to hold it forward and out of the way so the forestay doesn't flop around.

This page should have plenty of info to get you up to speed.
https://www.hobie.com/support/hobie-16/

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:30 pm 
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Check out the youtube channel "hobie university". We have some vids on there that might help...for a newer boat.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:50 pm 
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Matt Miller's video has boat loads of useful info and is very helpful, I highly recommend that you watch it.

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