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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:24 pm 
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Is there any reason why Hobie uses a fiddle block while some of the aftermarket Aussie jib halyards have a double bullet block for the upper block? other than to reduce size/wind resistance?

What kind of load is on the jib halyard, would a 1200 lb Harken Micro block be ok with an Aussie halyard?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:55 pm 
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I'd use a Harken 167 on the bottom and a 084 at the tang. Replace the sheet metal shackels with stronger pieces.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:21 pm 
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hobie1616, I did some calculations using the Hobie catalog comparing your suggestion and Hobie's bundled system:

Hobie: $115
hobie1616: $162.50

I'm not questioning your wisdom, but I would like to know either where I went wrong, or, besides the cost, what is the difference between the two.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:36 am 
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I think the motivation behind Hobie's stock system is price (as Skipshot pointed out - the stock system is significantly less expensive than all Harken blocks). There's no real reason to upgrade since the system isn't a "working" system, i.e. it's not being adjusted all the time. Most people hoist the jib, cleat it and forget it while they're sailing. Only racers will adjust it on the water.

That being said, I've run standard Harken bullet blocks for years with no problems. I'm not sure I would downsize to the micro blocks. Then again, I'm running with a 3 mm Swiftcord halyard that's more likely to break than anything else.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:00 am 
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Skipshot wrote:
hobie1616, I did some calculations using the Hobie catalog comparing your suggestion and Hobie's bundled system:

Hobie: $115
hobie1616: $162.50

I'm not questioning your wisdom, but I would like to know either where I went wrong, or, besides the cost, what is the difference between the two.

Ya gets whatcha pays for (in most cases). I've used a lot of Harken stuff over the years. I've never suffered from a failure. Harken has an excellent worldwide reputation.

If/when you work on your car/truck/whatever, do you buy name parts (AC Delco, Motorcraft, etc) or do you save a few bucks and buy no name crap that’s produced in China and hope it works?

Your original question did not specify price as a parameter for consideration. If it had, I wouldn't have answered. Sailing, in general, is an expensive sport as there's a lot of hardware involved. Hobie, specifically, has a high initial price but if you spend your money on the right equipment the first time, your reoccurring expenses will be quite low.

JMHO

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:18 am 
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I went with the harken aussie setup over this past winter and am very happy with it. BTW, I went with 4mm amsteel for my jib halyard and it works great. That stuff is really tough!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:22 am 
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btw, i went with these

HAR2637 Harken 40 mm Carbo Single / Swivel / Becket

HAR2655 Harken Carbo Fiddle 40 mm
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