I picked up a 17 and it's new to me (I'm a 16 18 guy)
I have a spreader but it looks more massive than those I've seen in photos that appear to be just a small pole?
I'll go shoot a pic of mine...
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| Author: | NCRaginCajun [ Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Adding jib to H17SE |
Got an '87 H17 in May that had not been sailed in 10 years or so. In decent shape until the laminated Pryde sail gave way. Have replace most rigging, tramp & wing covers and now want to add a jib. I picked up an H18 for parts yesterday, mostly for the jib set up though. The 18 rig will fit the 17, with minor mods, but want to make sure not having the spreader bar will not be an issue? Also plan on ordering flat top main from Slo Sail, any thoughts on that? Thanks in advance. Mike |
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| Author: | srm [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adding jib to H17SE |
You need a bow spreader pole on the 17 if you plan to rig it with a jib, otherwise you can damage the hulls. The hulls are not designed to withstand the higher inward force from the shortened bridle wires used with a jib. sm |
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| Author: | Tom Kirkman [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adding jib to H17SE |
I would put the jib on the back, turn one hull sideways, swap the rigging out with para-cord, and see what happens. |
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| Author: | NCRaginCajun [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adding jib to H17SE |
Thanks Tom, but think I will stick with the tried and true rigging for now. I am willing to try your suggestion with the trifoiler though. |
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| Author: | NCRaginCajun [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adding jib to H17SE |
srm, I was afraid of that. After parking the 18 next to the 17 I noticed the huge difference in hull size and began to worry about damage. Do I have to use the Hobie spreader or can I fashion something to do the spreading? |
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| Author: | srm [ Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adding jib to H17SE |
Of course you don't "need" to use the Hobie spreader pole. It depends on how much time and energy you want to put into it. The Hobie pole is plug-n-play. If you build your own, you have to put out the effort to design and build it. You definitely need something there though or you will probably crack the hull. sm |
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| Author: | Tom Kirkman [ Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adding jib to H17SE |
NCRaginCajun wrote: Thanks Tom, but think I will stick with the tried and true rigging for now. I am willing to try your suggestion with the trifoiler though. I think the last guy did. Seriously, does anybody have a link to a good photo of the factory spreader? |
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| Author: | NCRaginCajun [ Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adding jib to H17SE |
NCRaginCajun wrote: srm, I was afraid of that. After parking the 18 next to the 17 I noticed the huge difference in hull size and began to worry about damage. Do I have to use the Hobie spreader or can I fashion something to do the spreading? Thanks for the help. Because I am also pricing flat top sails to replace the original Neil Pryde main think I will take a swing at designing my own. With Tom helping what is the worse that can happen? |
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| Author: | Rojoyinc [ Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adding jib to H17SE |
I picked up a 17 and it's new to me (I'm a 16 18 guy) I have a spreader but it looks more massive than those I've seen in photos that appear to be just a small pole? I'll go shoot a pic of mine...
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| Author: | MBounds [ Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adding jib to H17SE |
That would *work*, but it's not a stock spreader bar. The stock bar doesn't have a dolphin striker. |
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| Author: | xanderwess [ Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adding jib to H17SE |
A jib? Why? |
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| Author: | Rojoyinc [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adding jib to H17SE |
I'd like to hear from someone at HObie on this since it sure looks factory. SEEMS ODD to me too - but surely will ELIMINATE ANY STRESS on the bows. It really LOCKS in snug. It came with the boat - but someone asked JIB WHY? I haven't sailed the 17 yet. I'm hoping it performs well without the jib since I really like it for simplicity. Easier setup and tear down for some no hassle sailing on home lake. But if anything like the 16 or 18 with no jib - forgetabout it. Being designed for mainsail only - hoping they preform well without a jib. |
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| Author: | srm [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adding jib to H17SE |
As stated above, it is not a Hobie factory spreader bar. The stock H17 Sport spreader bar doesn't have a truss rod (dolphin striker) and is shaped more like the boom extrusion (may be the same as the boom extrusion, it's been a while since I've seen one). That spreader likely came off of a NACRA. Anyway, if it fits, there's no reason it shouldn't work. Regarding the jib, sailing a uni-rig 17 is quite a bit different than just sailing an 18 without a jib. The 17 was designed as a uni-rig and is well balanced without a jib. The only reason I could see putting a jib on a 17 would be if you sail two-up a lot and want the crew to have something to do. But if you already have an 18, the 18 would be much better suited to sailing with two people. The 17 becomes a dog when overloaded. sm |
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| Author: | hobieandy [ Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adding jib to H17SE |
That is defiantly not Hobie factory equipment. It would suck to use especially going Downwind or reaching which tends to bury the bow. Very wet ride with that striker rod dragging through the water. Just keep in mind the H17 was designed to sail uni rig. The jib was added later. |
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| Author: | Rojoyinc [ Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adding jib to H17SE |
Thanks for the info. Did the 17 come with EPO's? I bought this one because it had them, moving them to my 18. I'd rather use it as a uni rig - as I like the simplicity of it. Great for keeping on the beach at the lake. Less setup and pickup to sail. Kinda looks like a large wind surfer. = ) thnx Ron (Facebook HOBIE EXCHANGE )    
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