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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:29 am 
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I'm guessing that the acute bottom bow angle cooled too fast compared to the rest of the mould so the demould operation caused issues. Either that or the distribution of plastic inside was more difficult to achieve in the acute bottom bow angle since the rotation was in plane. Rotational moulding has their drawbacks. Having never been to a hobie production plant, I'm just guessing. IMO, the cosmetic change to reverse bows didn't affect performance very noticeably and was more to fit into the trendy perceptions that reverse bows were faster. Don't know of any instance where there was a head to head race between the bow styles.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:21 am 
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According to Hobie's blog about the updated boat:

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Its rotomolded polyethylene hulls feature reverse bows and an additional six inches of length, accentuating the Getaway’s playful performance. Other enhancements to this capable catamaran include an accent chine, new graphics and a molded-in rear carrying handle.


https://www.hobie.com/blog/hobie-launch ... g-cat,628/

So, in addition to reverse bows, you lose the extra 6 inches which may have improved performance/stability. You lose the rear carrying handle. (I haven't used that much) I'm not sure what "accent chine" is, but maybe you lose that too....


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:06 pm 
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Bow shape is returning to a traditional shape due to production problems with the mold. The mold was damaged beyond repair last fall. The new boats will be available in the Spring.


The reverse bow and indented handles at the rear caused considerable problems for production. The bows were too narrow to mold properly and had to be injected/filled with foam to keep their shape. The rear handle sub mold would fall into the mold and cause damage to the mold. Far too many blems and scrap.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:43 pm 
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Maybe it's time for a fibreglass option with reverse bows?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:46 pm 
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Desmond Becker wrote:
Maybe it's time for a fibreglass option with reverse bows?

That would be the Hobie Wildcat!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:05 pm 
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Yeah nah definitely a fibreglass getaway with the beams bolted to the hulls, with reverse bows and lighter construction it would fly, and last longer than plastic...


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:53 am 
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I've sailed both Getaway variants and there is a difference in performance....
In strong conditions the new boat is much more forgiving off the wind. It's less likely to nose dive and when it does (it's happened twice so far) the boat comes to a sudden full stop but didn't capsize.
The extra waterline length makes the boat faster upwind.
I've raced against 7 other old Getaways and was faster on all points of sail, winning the regatta. Furthermore in very light winds I beat all 8 Hobie 16s in the same regatta in the final race as well as the Getaways.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:09 pm 
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I suspect you'd have won the regatta with an old Getaway with new sails just as easily. Experience makes a difference and you have been sailing/racing boats for a lot longer than most getaway owners.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:15 pm 
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Thank you for your positive view of my abilities but it doesn't explain how I also beat all 8 Hobie 16s in light airs in the final race.
The Getaways extra waterline length maybe?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:50 pm 
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Mebe, but more likely the newer sails and more experience sailing in light wind. Light breeze tends to show skipper skill; but a longer WtL helps. You'd think a 16 with it's taller mast would be favored, though. ANYBODY can sail in 8-20 kts; but it takes talent to do well in under 7 and 25+

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My experience is that the H16s are faster than my Getaway in light wind, like under 10 knots. Above that, pretty even. High wind, depends on who's sailing the boat.

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