[Email reply by me to Capt. DeAnda]
Outstanding! Thank you very much.
FYI, I will post all this on discussion threads already started on this topic at:
http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/bb/in ... pic=6478.0
http://kfs.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/ ... 1351079003
http://www.fishsniffer.com/cgi-bin/foru ... 1165166661
http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/forum/s ... hp?t=21900
You have done these communities a great service.
Happy holidays and thanks again.
----- Original Message ----
From: Dennis DeAnda <DDeAnda@dfg.ca.gov>
To: Don West <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Cc: Liz Schwall <LSchwall@dfg.ca.gov>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 8:29:03 AM
Subject: Re: DFG law re care of fish on the water
Because I answered your questions last time and because you have several more, I have been asked to respond to you new inquiry. Let me attempt to answer your questions:
1. When fishing, on a boat or while traveling to and from your fishing location you should always maintain fish with a specific size limit in a condition where the size can be determined. In addition, anytime you reduce a fish to a fillet or similar condition, you should always maintain an ability to identify the species of the fish. As is required in ocean waters, a skin patch should suffice.
As I stated before, it would be illegal to fillet any fish listed and identified in the Ocean under Regulation Section 27.65(c). This includes salmon, striped bass and sturgeon. In inland waters there is no specific section prohibiting filleting fish. Unfortunately, if you possess fish where a size limit is required and can not be determined, this will be a violation.
2. As stated before, fish being prepared for immediate consumption may be filleted and made ready to eat.
3.Skin patches for the identification of fish species is fine for fish that have no specific size or weight limit.
4. Discarding fish entrails and carcasses back into the water is fine. Fish degrade extremely fast. Returning fish carcasses back to the water returns needed nutrients back to the system.
I hope this answers your questions.
[The following is the first email I sent to Lt. Schwall and then lost. DWW]
>>> Don West <email@example.com> 11/30/06 1:18 PM >>>
DFG Lt. Liz Schwall firstname.lastname@example.org
Captain DeAnda answered some questions under discussion on the FishSniffer website about stripers (copy reproduced below for convenience and URL included). The same questions have been posed about other fish species: salmon, trout, crappie, other panfish, catfish, etc.
We want to obey the law. We also want to get the fish we chose to harvest to the table in the best condition for eating. The practices of bleeding, filleting, putting the fillets on ice, and discarding the fish carcass(es) while still on the water has been discussed.
Specifically, what is the DFG policy on the following practices:
1. Is it legal to fillet salmon (chinook, kokanee, etc.- ocean caught, ocean-run in rivers, or land-locked in freshwater), trout, crappie, other panfish, or catfish on the water?
2. If it is legal to fillet such salmon, trout, crappie, other panfish, or catfish on the water, do you have to keep the carcass(es) until you get home (or cook the fillets)?
3. Is it okay to discard carcass(es) and just keep fillets with a patch of skin-and-scales for identification?
4. If 3 is okay, can you discard carcass(es) back into the water where you caught the fish, that is, fillet the fish on the boat and discard the carcass(es) overboard?
Can I post your answers, or would you have someone post your answers, on the appropriate FishSniffer boards?
http://www.fishsniffer.com/cgi-bin/foru ... 7220/15#24
â€œFrom: Dennis DeAnda <DDeAnda@dfg.ca.gov>
To: Don West <email@example.com>
Cc: Liz Schwall <LSchwall.PO_CEEB1.DOM_CEEB@dfg.ca.gov>; Rob Allen <RAllen.PO_CEEB1.DOM_CEEB@dfg.ca.gov>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:53:42 AM
Subject: Re: Striper Questions To Head of DFG Investigative Division
Thanks for your inquiry. Here are the answers to your questions:
1: It is illegal to fillet any striped bass while out fishing and or
possess the fish in a condition where it can not be measured - See Fish
and Game Code 5508. In addition it would be illegal to be in possession
of fish where the species would also be in doubt. See Fish and Game Code 5509.
I have included both laws below. There are additional regulations for ocean fishing
that allow for certain fish to be filleted and cleaned. These regulations do not include
Striped Bass. See Ocean Fishing Regulations Section 27.65 - Filleting of Fish on Vessels.
5508. It is unlawful to possess on any boat or to bring ashore any
fish upon which a size or weight limit is prescribed in such a condition
that its size or weight cannot be determined. The commission may adopt
regulations, under which fish other than whole fish may be brought
ashore, which establish sizes or weights for cleaned or otherwise cut
fish equivalent to sizes or weights for whole fish.
5509. It is unlawful to possess on any boat or to bring ashore any
fish in such a condition that the species cannot be determined, except
as otherwise provided in this code or regulations adopted pursuant
thereto. The commission, subject to the provisions of Section 5508, may
adopt regulations whereby fish taken by persons fishing from a vessel
licensed pursuant to Section 7920 may be brought ashore in such a
condition that the species cannot be determined.
2: Stripers should be maintained in whole condition (Gutting is OK.)
until they are stored at your residence and ready for immediate
3: See answers above
4: See above. generally, returning fish entrails to the water is not
Regarding cleaning fish for consumption - See Inland Fishing
Regulations regarding eating inland fish and health issues, pages 58 -
62 and in the Ocean Fishing Regulation pages 52 - 55.
You may post these answers. Lieutenant Liz Schwall is generally the
best enforcement contact regarding these issues. Her email is
,gov. I hope this information is helpful.
Fish and Game Captain
Headquarters - Investigative Services
(916) 651-9982 Office HQ
(916) 825-7263 Cell Phoneâ€