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 Post subject: Use of Smart Phones
PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:18 am 
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The class rules really don't speak specifically to the use of smart phones.

16.3 Compasses with brackets or electronic devices that provide timing and heading memory but which do not transmit, transfer or receive data are permitted. The use of navigation and speed metering equipment is illegal unless specifically allowed in the individual boat rules or by the No- tice of Race for the particular event or regatta.

Are smart phones allowed to be used? The clause about not transmiiting, transfering, or receiving data would seem to indicate not, but the wording of that part of the rule appears to be related to heading and speed measurements (i.e., no GPS devices).

For me, one big advantage of the smart phone is the ability to look up real-time weather data. Is it legal to do this between races?

What are the limitations (if any) on the use of smart phones during Hobie races? How are other classes handling this?

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 Post subject: Re: Use of Smart Phones
PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:46 am 
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Why not send your question to the rules committee and get an official ruling. You can email them at rules@hobieclass.com


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 Post subject: Re: Use of Smart Phones
PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:27 am 
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And Steve, if you do, can you post their answer here?

Thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: Use of Smart Phones
PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:34 pm 
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Will do.

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 Post subject: Re: Use of Smart Phones
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:09 pm 
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Would this 'ban' also apply to folks who zip up their smart phones in a waterproof pouch, set RaceQS, then download the data AFTER the day's racing?

We love comparing notes afterwards, and figuring out who picked the 'right' side of the course......

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 Post subject: Re: Use of Smart Phones
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:09 pm 
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John, you are jumping to conclusions. Where did anyone say phones are "banned"?

I forwarded my original question to the IHCA Rules committee and will post their ruling when I receive a response. It may take a while.

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 Post subject: Re: Use of Smart Phones
PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:43 am 
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this is a common paragraph written into SI's....

RADIO COMMUNICATION
Except in an emergency, a boat shall neither make
radio transmissions while racing nor receive radio
communications not available to all boats. This
restriction also applies to mobile telephones.

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 Post subject: Re: Use of Smart Phones
PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:59 pm 
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As promised, here is the official exchange from IHCA - long story short, smart phones are not allowed....

Thanks to Erik Olsen for a fast and concise reply.


We have now had time to consider your question.

General Hobie Class Rule 16.3 shall be interpreted as follows in relation to smart phones etc.:

Smartphones, smartwatches etc. are electronic devices, which can transmit, transfer and receive data. They will as such be considered illegal unless specifically allowed by the Notice of Race for the particular event or regatta.

Hope to have clarified the matter. Otherwise please let us know.



Thanks Erik. Can you clarify- are smart devices considered illegal at all times while on the water, or only while racing? For example, is it permissible to look up weather data using a phone in between races?



As with other ”illegal” electronic devices, the ruling applies for the entire period afloat for the purpose of competing in races unless specifically allowed by the Notice of Race for the particular event or regatta.


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 Post subject: Re: Use of Smart Phones
PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:25 pm 
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Thanks, Steve.


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